Our plan is to treat SAML assertions passed over the assertion flow as bearer 
assertions, so I believe we have everything we need contained within the 
assertion (issuer + audience + signature).  That being said, if we want this to 
be an extensible flow, not all assertion formats will be so transparent.

I think this is a reasonable suggestion, as long as the clientid/secret are 
entirely optional.    Not in support of a second User Assertion Flow.

-cmort


On 5/13/10 3:38 AM, "Torsten Lodderstedt" <tors...@lodderstedt.net> wrote:

In my perception, we reached consensus in the thread "Autonomous clients
and resource owners (editorial)" that the assertion flow should support
clients acting on behalf of users, not only autonomous clients.

The specification currently states "This flow is suitable when the
client is acting autonomously or on behalf of the end-user (based on the
content of the assertion used).", which is fine with me.

Im struggling to understand how the flow handles the two required
identities, the client and the end-user. I basically see two options:

1) the assertion attests both identities. I'm not aware of any identity
framework attesting two identities in a single assertion.

2) If we assume the assertion attests the end-user's identity only,
there is the need for additional parameters used to authenticate the
client. From my point of view, the situation is similar to the "Username
and Password Flow". There, the specification defines two credential sets
(username/password and client_id/client_secret) two prove both identities.

Therefore, I would propose to add optional client_id/client_secret
parameters (or an Authorization header) to pass the client credentials
to the assertion flow if the assertion contains the end-user identity.
Alternatively, one could add another flow to the spec, probably called
"User Assertion Flow".

Any thoughts?

regards,
Torsten.

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