My understanding is that this was tracked down using git bisect, so I'd
assume that there is a test case?

Am Mo., 10. Feb. 2025 um 18:10 Uhr schrieb Konrad Windszus <k...@apache.org
>:

> Hi Robert,
> Thanks for chiming in.
>
> > On 10. Feb 2025, at 18:03, Robert Munteanu <romb...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > (usual peanut gallery disclaimer applied)
> >
> > On Mon, 2025-02-10 at 16:10 +0100, Konrad Windszus wrote:
> >> Hi Julian,
> >> I would refrain from doing reverts before really understanding (and
> >> describing) the actual issue.
> >> IIUC from https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OAK-11470 the root
> >> cause is still unclear.
> >> Please provide further insights why a revert fixed this and what the
> >> nature of those failing ITs were.
> >>
> >> For me it feels a bit like there is something going on outside the
> >> ASF which drives the release which is not how it is supposed to be.
> >> For me as PMC it is impossible to judge how reasonable the commit
> >> related to OAK-11470 is without knowing:
> >>
> >> - at least the failing external ITs output
> >> - a reproducible scenario
> >>
> >> Regarding:
> >>>
> >>> Can we please leave these details to the person acting as Release
> >>> Manager?
> >>
> >> Reverting lots of commits on the main branch is not a detail, it will
> >> affect everyone working on the same code base.
> >> Therefore I think before doing that as release manager this justifies
> >> some pre-alignment on the mailing list.
> >>
> >> Open source is all about transparency. Let us come back to this
> >> transparency at Jackrabbit.
> >
> >
> > I would trust the release manager to cancel the release vote if they
> > have found enough proof that there is a problem with the release. They
> > can of course also postpone the decision until the root cause is
> > properly understood and formulate but I don't think that's mandatory.
>
> Fully agree here, however my concern was not about cancelling the release
> but doing revert commits on the main branch.
>
> >
> > What I am not that onboard with is respinning a release without a good
> > understanding about why the initial release was broken to start with. I
> > think there is no rush to get this release out the door and we should
> > do it with a good regression test in place.
>
> Also very much +1 here.
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Konrad
> >>
> >>> On 8. Feb 2025, at 10:57, Julian Reschke
> >>> <julian.resc...@gmx.de.INVALID> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 08.02.2025 09:37, Konrad Windszus wrote:
> >>>> Hi Julian,
> >>>> This sounds pretty vague. What exactly was not working in some
> >>>> external tests?
> >>>
> >>> I really don't know exactly. What we could single out was the
> >>> removal of
> >>> Guava ImmutableSet. These kind of changes are somewhat risky
> >>> because of
> >>> subtle differences with the alternatives (nullability & order).
> >>>
> >>>> Also all the reverts and particularly
> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OAK-11470 don’t really
> >>>> provide any insights.
> >>>
> >>> ...added some short explanation.
> >>>
> >>>> Why do we temporarily have to revert everything in master instead
> >>>> of using a branch to fix the release?
> >>>
> >>> Because I did not want to release from a branch.
> >>>
> >>> Can we please leave these details to the person acting as Release
> >>> Manager?
> >>>
> >>>> ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best regards, Julian
>
>

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