European Goldfinch seems to be one of those species without a Domestic
option.

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 1:37 PM nathan o'reilly <natro...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Although some species do not have a Domestic option like the
> Yellow-fronted Canaries I've had a couple times in Manhattan and told by an
> ebird reviewed to add them. I hope to rectify my life list by getting them
> in the wild this summer.
>
> Seems like most people don't know this about the Domestic option for the
> Muscovy Ducks in CP.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 19, 2017, at 1:31 PM, David Barrett <mil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The proper way to enter escaped exotics on eBird lists is to select the
> domestic version. For example, if you search eBird for Budgerigar you will
> also get Budgerigar (Domestic). Choose the latter.
>
> David Barrett
> Manhattan
>
> On Dec 19, 2017 1:16 PM, <brian.whip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The umpteen responses I’ve gotten to the contrary are why I hedged my
>> sureness.
>>
>> Does anyone know the proper protocol for entering escapees on checklists
>> (benefitting science) without having them inaccurately show up on lifelists
>> (benefitting type-A listers)?
>>
>> Also, I know some of my Central Park checklists include Budgies, but
>> there’s no Budgie on my NYS life list, so I must have done something right.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:47 PM <brian.whip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m 95% sure that European Goldfinches (like Budgies) won’t show up on
>>> anyone’s eBird NY State life list even if you keep the species in your
>>> regular checklists. eBird knows what to count/not count in that respect.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:38 PM Deborah Allen <dalle...@earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The European Goldfinches should be entered into ebird, especially if
>>>> there is any evidence of breeding, so their populations can be monitored.
>>>>
>>>> Deb Allen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nathan o'reilly
>>>> Sent: Dec 19, 2017 4:55 AM
>>>> To: Ben Cacace
>>>> Cc: NYSBIRDS-L , eBirds NYC
>>>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Governors Island: European Goldfinch Flock
>>>> (18-Dec)
>>>>
>>>> Prospect Park/Brooklyn birders: Have any of you seen them more recently
>>>> and do you enter the European Goldfinch  into ebird when you see them? I
>>>> know some birders do not consider them "wild" so they do not report them to
>>>> ebird.
>>>>
>>>> Cool sightings for Gov Island though. It is unfortunate to be closed
>>>> off to the public over the winter.
>>>>
>>>> Nate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 19, 2017, at 4:48 AM, Ben Cacace <bcac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately the island is closed to the public until May 1st but I
>>>> was very lucky to get invited to the island yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> There was a small flock of European Goldfinch in Hammock Grove of ~12
>>>> birds and a small group of 5 (same birds?) seen off Nolan Park later in the
>>>> day.
>>>>
>>>> I was looking into European Goldfinch sightings on eBird and the most
>>>> recent one in the area is from Prospect Park on Nov 26th of one bird. The
>>>> only sightings "locally" are from Bermuda and points north of Chicago. The
>>>> number of individuals from the Lake Michigan group are no higher than 8
>>>> individuals for sightings between Nov-Dec of this year.
>>>>
>>>> European Goldfinch: Current Year Map for Nov-Dec
>>>> • https://tinyurl.com/y7yg59yx
>>>> ... zoom out to view sightings from Bermuda.
>>>>
>>>> Is the most likely explanation that these are a new set of escaped
>>>> birds? Or could the weather have had an effect on local populations? They
>>>> understood Sweetgums as a food source and the birds were very vocal. How
>>>> quickly do newly escaped birds take to Sweetgum Trees?
>>>>
>>>> You can see photos on Cathy Weiner's eBird checklist:
>>>> • http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S41179158
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