Hi Everyone, Just to add my 2 cents on Owls.
I was taught owls are not to be posted. I found a Saw-whet Owl once and returned with friends the next day. There were dozens of pellets at the base of the tree. This owl had been there for weeks. I never saw it again. 4 people were enough to chase it off in the dead of winter for good, and I learned my lesson. The only owl I have reported seeing to an RBA was a Snowy Owl on an inaccessible island visible from shore, hundreds of yards out. If I ask a birder I have just met about owls and they don't want to tell me where they are, that is just fine. I have asked and been told "no, its a secret." I have more respect for a birder that thinks about the bird's well-being first than one who wants to brag and show it off like a trophy. If you post the location of a roosting owl, or any bird for that matter, you have to share some responsibility for what happens to it, good or bad. If you know photographers are going to chase after it, or people are going to play calls at it all day long, you should probably take the bird's best interests into account and keep it to yourself. Use common sense. If this means new birders don't get to see it, then that's the way it has to be. I don't see anything wrong with having to earn your way into the birding community. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Will Raup <[email protected]> wrote: > > Photographers are clearly muggles, but the birding community has its share > of deatheaters. > > > Will Raup > Albany, NY > > > ------------------------------ > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Knee jerk reaction to 2 guys that just didn't > get it > From: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:53:32 -0500 > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > When will Harry Potter fans get involved in this discussion? > > Jacob > > On Feb 6, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Felipe Pimentel wrote: > > Dan, > > The problem with your suggestion is the potential danger of creating a > kind of "birding war" that would not help to solve any problem but may > create new ones, including potentially violent encounters in the field that > we must avoid. More productive could be the development of some flexible > guidelines by some local groups (like the Audubon society) about what > birders or bird photographers should do and not do in the field. Codes of > ethics are by definition general moral principles. In my humble opinion the > best policy is self-restraint and a good sense of personal responsibility. > > There are issues that will never be solved. For example, the issue of > "disturbing" birds or approaching birds. Maybe for a particular birder > being too close to a bird means 50 feet away while for others may be only > 30. Massive birding by definition is a potential disturbance for many > birds. When you have 60 bird watchers congregated on the same spot that > could create be more disturbance than a single photographer taking pictures > of the same bird even at a closer distance. > > What I am trying to say is that things cannot be one-dimensional and > that practical common sense cannot be like the Ten Commandments (for those > who are believers), written in stone. > > FP > > > On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Gregory Fisher wrote: > > > Hey Dan, > > I am fine with that as long as you at least try to educate the > individuals exhibiting the poor behavior. Some people are just ignorant > and just need a little guidance. Yesterday's example by Adam is a prime > example. You approach them, try to considerately educate them. When they > resist and blow you off then communicate to others. Everyone deserves a > fair shake. > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan <[email protected]> > > Sent: Feb 6, 2012 3:35 PM > > To: Gregory Fisher <[email protected]> > > Cc: "<[email protected]>" <[email protected]>, NY BIRDS Cornell > <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Knee jerk reaction to 2 guys that just didn't > get it > > > Let's all take photos of photographers that misbehave. Be SURE to post > them to the appropriate listserve. If you see that photographer enter their > vehicle, try to photograph the make and model and the license plate number > too :) > > > Good birding! > > > Dan Furbish > > [email protected] > > > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > > -- > *NYSbirds-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > *Archives:* > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l%40cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> > BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html> > *Please submit your observations to **eBird*<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/> > *!* > -- > > > -- > *NYSbirds-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > *Archives:* > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l%40cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> > BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html> > *Please submit your observations to **eBird*<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/> > *!* > -- > -- > *NYSbirds-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > *Archives:* > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html> > Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> > BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html> > *Please submit your observations to **eBird*<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/> > *!* > -- > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
