Hi Seth,

It's nice to know the probable history of those birds in Queens.  It is 
surprising that they are here b/c no other temperate city in the U.S. has 
them.  
While you are correct in your discussion of Mitred Parakeet's habitat 
requirements, I disagree with you're opinion they were not the same flock.  You 
even mention the same number of idividuals I saw.  It is very likely they were 
since there are not many of them in NYC and parrots are known for their long 
travels in search of food.  They will travel even further in this country where 
they are living since food is harder to find than in their native haunts.  Even 
with microclimates that doesn't mean a parrot can survive and breed.  Just look 
at the Rose-ringed Parakeet.  A flock of 50+ lived in my area for many years 
but 
never bred and eventually died out in the mid 80's where in many cities around 
the world they survive.  I don't know where you get that there are more than 13 
or so birds since nobody has reported that many in a flock.  The numbers from 
your reports always seem to be about the same and if there were more than that 
you'd think it would be known since they are not exactly quiet birds.  People 
would definately see and hear them.  Also, if they were breeding I'm sure it 
would have been known by now with all the birders around here.  If there were 
that many around they would have to be seen on some Xmas count.  I mean 
Black-hooded Parakeets were seen for a few years in Brooklyn on counts and 
there 
were only a few of them.  Either way it's easy to tell if young are around, 
they will have very little if any red on the head.  Anyway I hope to see them 
again someday.  It's quite nice that they are surviving but where are 
they during the breeding season, that's the big question.  Parrots don't just 
disappear. 

Andrew  
 Andrew v. F. Block
Consulting Naturalist/Wildlife Biologist
37 Tanglewylde Avenue
Bronxville, Westchester Co., New York 10708-3131
Phone: 914-337-1229; Fax: 914-771-8036






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From: Seth Ausubel <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, April 3, 2011 4:58:30 PM
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] long belated Mitred Parakeet report


This is an interesting report, and I’ll try to address Andrew’s questions.
 
Mitred Parakeets (Aratinga mitrata – known in aviculture as Mitred Conures) are 
a temperate zone species, naturally ranging from southern Peru and western 
Bolivia to northern Argentina .  The species is typically found at 1000-3500 
meters elevation, and has been recorded to 4000 meters.  With the variety of 
warm microhabitats available in any urbanized area, and the relative abundance 
of foods such as ornamental fruits, it is not too surprising that they can 
survive our winters.  In fact it is winter when many sightings have occurred as 
the birds wander widely to forage, often on extremely cold days.
 
There is no reason to believe that Andrew’s birds are the same as those 
currently present in Queens .  The origin of the local population of Mitred 
Parakeets is reliably established between 1979 and 1984.  This coincides with 
the period when large numbers of birds were imported, JFK Airport being a major 
hub.  It appears that both the total number of birds, and the range of areas 
from which they have been reported, have decreased over time.  Historically, 
most reports have been from southwestern Nassau County .  During the 1990s it 
appears the birds ranged at least as far east as Massapequa ( Nassau ), and as 
far west as Central Park .  Andrew’s is the first report I know of from the 
Bronx .  The most recent reports I know of from southwestern Nassau were in 
2009, but there have been many recent reports from Queens .  There are only 
13-15 birds in the Queens flock.  Assuming birds still persist in Nassau , 
there 
may be as many as 50 Mitred Parakeets around the NYC metro area.  Having said 
all this, I’ll also say that reporting is quite unreliable and there could well 
be some birds missed.  For example, to this day, Mitred Parakeets have not been 
recorded on any NY Christmas Bird Count and reports from June through November 
are virtually unknown.  So the biggest question is whether Mitred Parakeets are 
breeding in the NY area, and if so, where.
 
Those interested can read my article in The Kingbird, September 2009; 59(3).  
By 
the way, the cherry trees in Hillcrest, Queens are about to blossom, and the 
birds should be there within a couple of days!
 
Seth Ausubel
Forest Hills, NY
 

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From:[email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Block
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:56 AM
To: NYS Birds
Subject: [nysbirds-l] long belated Mitred Parakeet report
 
For all you parrot people out there following the saga of the Mitred Parakeets 
in NYC I was going thru my notes last night and came across a sighting I had on 
4/4/96 at the NY Botanical Garden.  I had forgotten I had a flock of 13 
Mitred Parakeets fly over the Rose Garden heading south towards the zoo.  It 
just occured to me these must be the same flock that is being see sporadically 
in Queens .  I really would love to know how they survive the winters here b/c 
they are not supposed to be hardy around here.  It's one of the many mysteries 
of NYC I guess.
 
Andrew
 
Andrew v. F. Block
Consulting Naturalist/Wildlife Biologist
37 Tanglewylde Avenue
Bronxville, Westchester Co., New York 10708-3131
Phone: 914-337-1229; Fax: 914-771-8036


      
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