It has been more than 4 years since the start of NVO3, and since we have
adopted 3 dataplane drafts, option #1 seems the only way we could go now.

Lizhong



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> From: Jesse Gross <[email protected]>
> To: Lucy yong <[email protected]>, Anoop Ghanwani <
> [email protected]>, Tom Herbert <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB)" <[email protected]>, NVO3 <
> [email protected]>
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:26:32 +0000
> Subject: Re: [nvo3] Mail regarding NVO3 data plane drafts
>
> I agree as well. We’ve had this question outstanding for the past couple
> years and haven’t had much luck on picking/merging. Given the timing, I
> think it’s effectively impossible to do so now. It seems like #1 is the
> pragmatic choice.
>
>
>
> On 7/14/16, 1:00 PM, "nvo3 on behalf of Lucy yong" <[email protected]
> on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> *Agree with Anoop’s analogy.*
>
>
>
> *Lucy*
>
>
>
> *From:* nvo3 [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Anoop Ghanwani
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 14, 2016 12:46 PM
> *To:* Tom Herbert
> *Cc:* Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB); NVO3
> *Subject:* Re: [nvo3] Mail regarding NVO3 data plane drafts
>
>
>
> #2 is going to be nearly impossible (or it would have happened earlier,
> and if it were possible, why would we even bother publishing the other
> two?), so that makes it an easy choice.
>
>
>
> Anoop
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Tom Herbert <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB)
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > WG,
> >
> > The NVO3 working group has adopted three data plane encapsulations:
> > -          VXLAN-GPE,
> > -          Geneve,
> > -          GUE (although the draft is moving to the Intarea WG, we
> anticipate that NVO3 will still reference this).
> >
> > We have discussed this situation with Alia and we feel that there is
> little benefit to the community in publishing all three as standards track
> RFCs.
> >
> > We would note that the discussion on the drafts has been relatively
> light since their adoption. There has not been serious discussion about
> their relative pros/cons (if any), or about the actual usefulness of their
> extensibility or differentiators.
> >
> > This leaves two options:
> >
> > 1) Publish all of them as informational or experimental, potentially
> moving one of them to standards track in the future based on
> implementation/deployment.
> > 2) Pick one now based on technical and/or implementation/deployment
> criteria.
> >
>
> I would like to propose a third option. Create a design team in nvo3
> to come up with the goal of proposing one data plane protocol that
> consolidates the best features of the three. Outside of extensibility
> there is fundamentally little difference amongst these, and the
> different models of extensibility (flag-fields, TLVs, NSH) could be
> fit into one protocol.  Also, the encapsulation design considerations
> (draft-ietf-rtgwg-dt-encap-01) provides a good reference for creating
> such an encapsulation protocol.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
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