Hi Xiaohu,
    If a given BFR/NVE is in multiple sub-domain, then the info that is 
carried
is necessary I think.

Best regards,
Sandy


Xuxiaohu <[email protected]> 写于 2015/10/13 15:45:57:

> Hi Linda,
> 
> You could piggyback the VN info on the BIER info. However, it would 
> result in unnecessary data redundancy since there may be multiple 
> <sub-domain, BFR-id> pairs for a given BFR/NVE.
> 
> Best regards,
> Xiaohu
> 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 3:16 PM
> To: Xuxiaohu
> Cc: [email protected]; BIER; fangwei hu; [email protected]; Zheng Zhang
> Subject: Re: [Bier] New Version Notification for draft-wang-bier-
> vxlan-use-case-00.txt
> 
> Hi Xiaohu, 
> 
>   Thanks very much for your comments and clarification. 
> 
>   As mentioned in bier-use-cases, there is no doubt that BIER can be
> used in NVO3 efficiently to steer BUM traffic. As the foundation of 
> BIER in NVO3, then extends the BIER control plane to carry VXLAN-
> specific information to form the mapping between VXLAN network 
> identifier and bitstring. This stands to reason. 
> 
>   On the other hand, you mentioned a related draft and I read it, I 
> find it is kind of differentiated from my draft. Your draft aims to 
> extend IS-IS to support NVEs auto-discovery, after that, each NVE 
> knows where the other NVEs are, then use ingress replication or 
> other methods to forward the BUM traffic. 
> 
>   So we still would like to say IGP/BGP extension for VXLAN-specific
> information together with BIER-specific information is an 
> interesting method in NVO3 :) 
> 
>   Thanks, 
> 
> Best Wishes, 
> Linda Wang
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Linda, 
> 
> To form the mapping between VXLAN network identifier and bitstring, 
> you could actually use the following two kinds of mappings: 1) the 
> mapping between VNIs and NVEs; 2) the mapping between NVEs and BRF-
> ids. For the latter, there have been corresponding drafts as 
> mentioned in your draft. As for the former (i.e., VPN/VN membership 
> auto-discovery), it belongs to the scope of NVO3 WG. As for how to 
> extend ISIS/OSPF for VPN/VN membership auto-discovery, there was a 
> related draft 
(https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-nvo3-isis-cp-00#page-4
> ). Unfortunately, it seems that the NVo3 WG has no interest in 
> defining ISIS/OSPF based distributed control plane protocols up till 
now. 
> 
> Best regards, 
> Xiaohu 
> 
> From: BIER [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
[email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:18 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Cui Wang; Zheng Zhang; fangwei hu
> Subject: Re: [Bier] New Version Notification for draft-wang-bier-
> vxlan-use-case-00.txt 
> 
> Dear all, 
> 
>  A new draft about how to use BIER in data centers as well as how to
> extend IGP/BGP protocol to discovery remote NVEs in data centers to 
> form the mapping between VXLAN network identifier and bitstring has 
> been submitted. Wish you can pay attention to this draft and 
> continue the discussion as the te-arch draft :) 
> 
>  Any comments are welcome:) 
> 
> Best Wishes, 
> Linda Wang
> 
> 
> [email protected] 写于 2015/10/12 17:03:30:
> 
> > [email protected] 
> > 2015/10/12 17:03 
> > 
> > 收件人 
> > 
> > "fangwei hu" <[email protected]>, "Cui Wang" 
> > <[email protected]>, "Fangwei Hu" <[email protected]>, "Zheng
> > Zhang" <[email protected]>, 
> > 
> > 抄送 
> > 
> > 主题 
> > 
> > New Version Notification for draft-wang-bier-vxlan-use-case-00.txt 
> > 
> > 
> > A new version of I-D, draft-wang-bier-vxlan-use-case-00.txt
> > has been successfully submitted by Cui Wang and posted to the
> > IETF repository.
> > 
> > Name:      draft-wang-bier-vxlan-use-case
> > Revision:   00
> > Title:      BIER Use Case in VxLAN
> > Document date:   2015-10-11
> > Group:      Individual Submission
> > Pages:      16
> > URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wang-
> > bier-vxlan-use-case-00.txt
> > Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-bier-
> > vxlan-use-case/
> > Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-bier-vxlan-
> use-case-00
> > 
> > 
> > Abstract:
> >    Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER) is an architecture that
> >    provides optimal multicast forwarding through a "BIER domain" 
without
> >    requiring intermediate routers to maintain any multicast related 
per-
> >    flow state.  BIER also does not require any explicit tree-building
> >    protocol for its operation.  A multicast data packet enters a BIER
> >    domain at a "Bit-Forwarding Ingress Router" (BFIR), and leaves the
> >    BIER domain at one or more "Bit-Forwarding Egress Routers" (BFERs).
> >    The BFIR router adds a BIER header to the packet.  The BIER header
> >    contains a bit-string in which each bit represents exactly one BFER
> >    to forward the packet to.  The set of BFERs to which the multicast
> >    packet needs to be forwarded is expressed by setting the bits that
> >    correspond to those routers in the BIER header.
> > 
> >    This document tries to describe the drawbacks of how BUM services 
are
> >    deployed in current data centers, and proposes how to take full
> >    advantage of BIER to implement BUM services in data centers.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of 
submission
> > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
> > 
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