Hi Linda,

You could piggyback the VN info on the BIER info. However, it would result in 
unnecessary data redundancy since there may be multiple <sub-domain, BFR-id> 
pairs for a given BFR/NVE.

Best regards,
Xiaohu

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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 3:16 PM
To: Xuxiaohu
Cc: [email protected]; BIER; fangwei hu; [email protected]; Zheng Zhang
Subject: Re: [Bier] New Version Notification for 
draft-wang-bier-vxlan-use-case-00.txt

Hi Xiaohu,

  Thanks very much for your comments and clarification.

  As mentioned in bier-use-cases, there is no doubt that BIER can be used in 
NVO3 efficiently to steer BUM traffic. As the foundation of BIER in NVO3, then 
extends the BIER control plane to carry VXLAN-specific information to form the 
mapping between VXLAN network identifier and bitstring. This stands to reason.

  On the other hand, you mentioned a related draft and I read it, I find it is 
kind of differentiated from my draft. Your draft aims to extend IS-IS to 
support NVEs auto-discovery, after that, each NVE knows where the other NVEs 
are, then use ingress replication or other methods to forward the BUM traffic.

  So we still would like to say IGP/BGP extension for VXLAN-specific 
information together with BIER-specific information is an interesting method in 
NVO3 :)

  Thanks,

Best Wishes,
Linda Wang






Hi Linda,

To form the mapping between VXLAN network identifier and bitstring, you could 
actually use the following two kinds of mappings: 1) the mapping between VNIs 
and NVEs; 2) the mapping between NVEs and BRF-ids. For the latter, there have 
been corresponding drafts as mentioned in your draft. As for the former (i.e., 
VPN/VN membership auto-discovery), it belongs to the scope of NVO3 WG. As for 
how to extend ISIS/OSPF for VPN/VN membership auto-discovery, there was a 
related draft (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-nvo3-isis-cp-00#page-4). 
Unfortunately, it seems that the NVo3 WG has no interest in defining ISIS/OSPF 
based distributed control plane protocols up till now.

Best regards,
Xiaohu

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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:18 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: Cui Wang; Zheng Zhang; fangwei hu
Subject: Re: [Bier] New Version Notification for 
draft-wang-bier-vxlan-use-case-00.txt

Dear all,

 A new draft about how to use BIER in data centers as well as how to extend 
IGP/BGP protocol to discovery remote NVEs in data centers to form the mapping 
between VXLAN network identifier and bitstring has been submitted. Wish you can 
pay attention to this draft and continue the discussion as the te-arch draft :)

 Any comments are welcome:)

Best Wishes,
Linda Wang


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> New Version Notification for draft-wang-bier-vxlan-use-case-00.txt
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> A new version of I-D, draft-wang-bier-vxlan-use-case-00.txt
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> IETF repository.
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> Name:      draft-wang-bier-vxlan-use-case
> Revision:   00
> Title:      BIER Use Case in VxLAN
> Document date:   2015-10-11
> Group:      Individual Submission
> Pages:      16
> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wang-
> bier-vxlan-use-case-00.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-bier-
> vxlan-use-case/
> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-bier-vxlan-use-case-00
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>
> Abstract:
>    Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER) is an architecture that
>    provides optimal multicast forwarding through a "BIER domain" without
>    requiring intermediate routers to maintain any multicast related per-
>    flow state.  BIER also does not require any explicit tree-building
>    protocol for its operation.  A multicast data packet enters a BIER
>    domain at a "Bit-Forwarding Ingress Router" (BFIR), and leaves the
>    BIER domain at one or more "Bit-Forwarding Egress Routers" (BFERs).
>    The BFIR router adds a BIER header to the packet.  The BIER header
>    contains a bit-string in which each bit represents exactly one BFER
>    to forward the packet to.  The set of BFERs to which the multicast
>    packet needs to be forwarded is expressed by setting the bits that
>    correspond to those routers in the BIER header.
>
>    This document tries to describe the drawbacks of how BUM services are
>    deployed in current data centers, and proposes how to take full
>    advantage of BIER to implement BUM services in data centers.
>
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