On 11/18/13 9:43 AM, "Linda Dunbar" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Dino, 
>
>So you are asking for a simple keep alive among NVEs (i.e. simpler than
>TCP) for NVEs to be aware if the target egress NVEs are not reachable.
>
>That might be good to have, depending on the environment.
>
>With this so called "control protocol", the packets will be dropped at
>the Ingress NVE when egress NVE is not reachable.
>Without this so called "control protocol, the packets will be dropped
>somewhere in the network when the egress NVE is not reachable.
>
>In data center environment where most communications are among
>applications, most likely a source will not send more packets without
>acknowledgment from the destination. Then the impact of where the packet
>is dropped is not that big.
>
>But in an environment where NVEs have aggregated traffic from many
>sources/flows, then it is important to have this "control protocol". In
>this environment, it might even warrant a control plane for NVE to notify
>the source when the egress is not reachable, so the source can choose a
>different ingress NVE.
>
>Bottom-line: I truly think that NVO3 needs a better boundary on the
>problem domain. If NVO3 is targeted for solving problems for entire
>worldwide internet, you need many control plane protocols. If NVO3 is
>targeted for solving problems in data centers, then many control plane
>protocols becomes unnecessary.

LK> I think the charter is clear that NVO3 is targeted for data center
solutions.

> 
>
>Linda
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >
>> > You don't need control plane protocol to achieve what you are asking
>> here. A simple TCP session among NVEs can do the job. When a NVE can't
>> reach the egress NVE to which the target is attached, drop the packet.
>> 
>> That is a form of a control-plane protocol. And you will have to same
>> scaling challenges with TCP and arguably it is worse, since TCP,
>> inherently, does not have keepalives.
>> 
>> Dino
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> > Linda
>> >
>
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