Sorry I wasn't clear.

I meant, will you require "Office 365/Azure Constrained Access"?

-----Original Message-----
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:21 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Looking for a global VPN solution - looking for input

Do you mean need mobile/BYOD?

Likely will, but whether we'll be on O365/Azure by then is an open question in 
my mind.

I'd prefer not, but I recognize that MSFT wants their money, so will do 
everything they can to force us there.

Kurt

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com> wrote:
> I can't speak to your environment, but many of my customers are pushing for 
> Office 365/Azure Constrained Access.
>
> Especially because of mobile/BYOD.
>
> I suggest you should consider the likelihood or whether you'll NEED that 
> capability within 5 years.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:31 PM
> To: ntsysadm
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Looking for a global VPN solution - looking 
> for input
>
> Ran through your posts in this thread, and i have to say that it looks like 
> the days of DA are numbered.
>
> However, if I implement it under 2016, it should be supported for at least 5 
> more years (assuming that Win10 still supports it, too).
>
> So, I'm not worried too much about that as such, but AVPN support for 
> non-domain-joined devices looks very interesting, and the fact that DA only 
> supported IPv6 was sometimes limiting.
>
> I think I'll explore AVPN a bit more, and probably include it as an option.
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com> 
> wrote:
>> So.... just a data point to consider.
>>
>> Microsoft is kinda moving away from DirectAccess.
>>
>> Many of the security functionalities added in Server 2016 won't work with DA.
>>
>> Instead you need to be using their Automatic VPN. The endpoint isn't very 
>> relevant, although they push RRAS.
>>
>> For example, WIP doesn't work properly with DA. Only with AVPN.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:19 PM
>> To: ntsysadm
>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Looking for a global VPN solution - looking 
>> for input
>>
>> Arg - that should be "seeking commercial services"..
>>
>> And, once I bring recommendations, it might well be that we just fall back 
>> to a DirectAccess server in each office, with our without a multi-site 
>> configuration, potentially with an SSP VPN appliance also at each office for 
>> backup and contractors, and call it good.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure either, but that's the task I've been given - not 
>>> necessarily to implement at this stage, but to scope out the 
>>> alternatives and come up with some possibilities.
>>>
>>> It's also why I'm seeing recommendations on commercial services, so 
>>> that our implementation requirements are minimized.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Joseph L. Casale 
>>> <jcas...@activenetwerx.com> wrote:
>>>> I've done a lot of openvpn setups in a myriad of formats, site to site, 
>>>> hub and spoke, client etc.
>>>> It works well and there are even some lesser documented features that do 
>>>> some neat stuff but you are now rolling your solution and marinating it 
>>>> manually.
>>>> Not sure how well that will scale unless you have a skilled team.
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
>>>>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:22 PM
>>>>> To: ntsysadm <NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com>
>>>>> Subject: [NTSysADM] Looking for a global VPN solution - looking 
>>>>> for input
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) For staff, currently we're using DirectAccess on 2012R2 as our 
>>>>> primary conduit in the US, with SSL VPNs (SonicWall and Palo Alto 
>>>>> Global Protect) as primary for our overseas offices and secondary 
>>>>> for the US (Sonicwall).
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) In the US office, we also have contractors/consultants needing 
>>>>> to use our SSL VPN for access to various resources, and that will 
>>>>> likely expand to our overseas offices soon. Differentiation and 
>>>>> securing resources is even more important here than in 1).
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) We also stand up IPSec tunnels for vendors/partners as needed 
>>>>> (lab to lab), for interoperability/compatibility testing.
>>>>>
>>>>> We're looking to get into a solution that will take care of at 
>>>>> least the first two (and ideally the third as well), so that we 
>>>>> don't have so many platforms to support, and so that we can make 
>>>>> sure that staff in the field get the fasted connection available.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've taken a quick gander at the websites for vyprvpn (Golden 
>>>>> Frog), and OpenVPN (commercial client offering), but don't have 
>>>>> much of an opinion on them, as info about them is a bit thin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have experience with solutions like this, and care to comment?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
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