I can't speak to your environment, but many of my customers are pushing for 
Office 365/Azure Constrained Access.

Especially because of mobile/BYOD.

I suggest you should consider the likelihood or whether you'll NEED that 
capability within 5 years.

-----Original Message-----
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:31 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Looking for a global VPN solution - looking for input

Ran through your posts in this thread, and i have to say that it looks like the 
days of DA are numbered.

However, if I implement it under 2016, it should be supported for at least 5 
more years (assuming that Win10 still supports it, too).

So, I'm not worried too much about that as such, but AVPN support for 
non-domain-joined devices looks very interesting, and the fact that DA only 
supported IPv6 was sometimes limiting.

I think I'll explore AVPN a bit more, and probably include it as an option.

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com> wrote:
> So.... just a data point to consider.
>
> Microsoft is kinda moving away from DirectAccess.
>
> Many of the security functionalities added in Server 2016 won't work with DA.
>
> Instead you need to be using their Automatic VPN. The endpoint isn't very 
> relevant, although they push RRAS.
>
> For example, WIP doesn't work properly with DA. Only with AVPN.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:19 PM
> To: ntsysadm
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Looking for a global VPN solution - looking 
> for input
>
> Arg - that should be "seeking commercial services"..
>
> And, once I bring recommendations, it might well be that we just fall back to 
> a DirectAccess server in each office, with our without a multi-site 
> configuration, potentially with an SSP VPN appliance also at each office for 
> backup and contractors, and call it good.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm not sure either, but that's the task I've been given - not 
>> necessarily to implement at this stage, but to scope out the 
>> alternatives and come up with some possibilities.
>>
>> It's also why I'm seeing recommendations on commercial services, so 
>> that our implementation requirements are minimized.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Joseph L. Casale 
>> <jcas...@activenetwerx.com> wrote:
>>> I've done a lot of openvpn setups in a myriad of formats, site to site, hub 
>>> and spoke, client etc.
>>> It works well and there are even some lesser documented features that do 
>>> some neat stuff but you are now rolling your solution and marinating it 
>>> manually.
>>> Not sure how well that will scale unless you have a skilled team.
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
>>>> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:22 PM
>>>> To: ntsysadm <NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com>
>>>> Subject: [NTSysADM] Looking for a global VPN solution - looking for 
>>>> input
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> 1) For staff, currently we're using DirectAccess on 2012R2 as our 
>>>> primary conduit in the US, with SSL VPNs (SonicWall and Palo Alto 
>>>> Global Protect) as primary for our overseas offices and secondary 
>>>> for the US (Sonicwall).
>>>>
>>>> 2) In the US office, we also have contractors/consultants needing 
>>>> to use our SSL VPN for access to various resources, and that will 
>>>> likely expand to our overseas offices soon. Differentiation and 
>>>> securing resources is even more important here than in 1).
>>>>
>>>> 3) We also stand up IPSec tunnels for vendors/partners as needed 
>>>> (lab to lab), for interoperability/compatibility testing.
>>>>
>>>> We're looking to get into a solution that will take care of at 
>>>> least the first two (and ideally the third as well), so that we 
>>>> don't have so many platforms to support, and so that we can make 
>>>> sure that staff in the field get the fasted connection available.
>>>>
>>>> I've taken a quick gander at the websites for vyprvpn (Golden 
>>>> Frog), and OpenVPN (commercial client offering), but don't have 
>>>> much of an opinion on them, as info about them is a bit thin.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have experience with solutions like this, and care to comment?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Kurt
>>>>
>>>
>
>


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