I guess I was totally convinced at "it's crap crap crap". On Tuesday, 29 October 2013 10:59:52 UTC+1, Alex Kocharin wrote: > > 29.10.2013, 13:05, "Floby" <[email protected] <javascript:>>: > > Thanks for your inputs alex's. > > In my book, jade sucks ass, as does any templating on the server-side. > > > Yep, that's what I'm talking about. > > Jade can be used quite well for hybrid approach, by which I mean creating > the same templates on the server-side and updating them on the client-side > without reloading. > > But a lot of the people think that it's a server-side only engine, and > that's exactly why people need to teach about its possibilities. > > That's why angular.js sucks by the way. You can't use it on the server > side, so it is useful only for a few web applications where client-side js > is an actual requirement. > > > > So you see, opinions infer. My suggestion to use javascript MV* frameworks > is in fact because they are so hip. Alexander is trying to gather interest, > this is probably the best way. > > for code formatting, just feed your code through jshint or jslint. This is > the standard for javascript. > > > Jslint is an opinionated crap. Jshint is better, but only because you can > configure it properly. Default codestyle imposed by both these engines is a > crap. > > I actually tried to use jshint for a while. And just once in all the years > it successfully catched an error for me. I still remember that one case, it > was like that: > var something, > foo, > bar; // <-- this > baz, > qaaz; > > I avoid semicolons since, but I still remember that case for some reason. > > Anyway, running jshint to fix an errors in the code isn't really worth it. > Running jshint to check your codestyle is just plainly wrong. It is NOT the > standard. > > > > > > On Tuesday, 29 October 2013 07:33:32 UTC+1, Alexander Cherednichenko wrote: > > Hello Alex, Floby! > > Thanks for your participation. > > As for UI - Totally Agree, capitalized. We had extjs as a requirement back > then, and really only used it to illustrate node's REST API services. Will > defo switch to something fancier later. We are not really happy with Ext in > any way, especially after working for a while with it. > > > Grunt, deployment descriptors to NodeJitsu and Joyent - yeah, great idea. > If we add a couple of description pages on how to fire up the application, > developer-in-study could have their app running in the Internet in like 5 > minutes, mostly spent for account creation on hosters'. > > As for indentation - we'll look into that; really have to comply with all > the projects' guidelines (which tell to use 4-space), but I also felt > that's a little wider than it should be. > > Thanks all, > Will keep posted on significant updates to the app -- anyway we were > planning to plug in fancy testing of everything (just as an illustrative > setup) next. > > Good night, > Alex. > > On Monday, 28 October 2013 12:58:23 UTC+2, Alex Kocharin wrote: > > > On Monday, October 28, 2013 2:10:03 PM UTC+4, Floby wrote: > > Hey, really interesting stuff here. > > I like how you tried to keep the dependencies minimal. However, here are > my thoughts for what, in my opinion, could make this better > > - Use something sexier than ExtJS. Like Angular.js or Ember.js. Better > yet, all 3. > > Better yet, Jade. Simply because nobody seems to understand how to compile > templates and use them on the client side. > > I don't know about Ember.js, but Angular.js is largely overrated. I'd > avoid that for a long while... > > > - Use Grunt for front-end assets management > - Add necessary files for deployement to Nodejitsu and Joyent in > addition to Heroku > - Use 2 spaces indentation for javascript > > Use tabs, pleeeeease. I understand that spaces is preferred in large > projects because stupid developers don't understand smart tabs, but why do > you suggest teaching beginners the wrong things? > > > IMO, this could become a great example app. > > On Sunday, 27 October 2013 20:03:27 UTC+1, Alexander Cherednichenko wrote: > > Hello! > > Me and team at my company (logicify, software consulting) have started > node development around a year ago. We had then created a really simple app > showcasing the tech stack, and now, after that year, we would like to share > it with the community. > > This is a really simple but fully-functional application featuring data > storage (MongoDB), search (Elasticsearch), cloud deployment (Heroku), > serverside JSON API (node) and client-side UI (very basic extjs 4). Totally > a work in progress rather than finished product. > > I think it may be useful: > > 1. For learning - just get a grasp of the code in a bite-sized chunk > (s). > 2. Sample for integration of technologies - it has quite full a stack > though very small domain (books). > 3. Seed, or archetype app - we have been already seeding it twice as a > skeleton for real-life application > > So, the links: > > 1. Github, code https://github.com/Logicify/nodejs-sample-task > 2. my blog, motivation (why we needed that and how we use it?) > > http://lexaux.blogspot.com/2013/10/nodejs-elasticsearch-mognodb-extjs-and.html > 3. and as a bonus - 2 slidesets from local meetup me and Pavel Knorr > had last Thursday in Kherson (Russian language!). Just in case :) > > http://lexaux.blogspot.com/2013/10/two-talks-at-local-software-development.html > > Thanks, and good night! > Alex > > > -- > -- > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] <javascript:> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] <javascript:> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "nodejs" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >
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