29.10.2013, 13:05, "Floby" <[email protected]>:
Thanks for your inputs alex's.In my book, jade sucks ass, as does any templating on the server-side.
Yep, that's what I'm talking about.
Jade can be used quite well for hybrid approach, by which I mean creating the same templates on the server-side and updating them on the client-side without reloading.
But a lot of the people think that it's a server-side only engine, and that's exactly why people need to teach about its possibilities.
That's why angular.js sucks by the way. You can't use it on the server side, so it is useful only for a few web applications where client-side js is an actual requirement.
So you see, opinions infer. My suggestion to use _javascript_ MV* frameworks is in fact because they are so hip. Alexander is trying to gather interest, this is probably the best way.for code formatting, just feed your code through jshint or jslint. This is the standard for _javascript_.
Jslint is an opinionated crap. Jshint is better, but only because you can configure it properly. Default codestyle imposed by both these engines is a crap.
I actually tried to use jshint for a while. And just once in all the years it successfully catched an error for me. I still remember that one case, it was like that:
var something,
foo,
bar; // <-- this
baz,
qaaz;
I avoid semicolons since, but I still remember that case for some reason.
Anyway, running jshint to fix an errors in the code isn't really worth it. Running jshint to check your codestyle is just plainly wrong. It is NOT the standard.
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On Tuesday, 29 October 2013 07:33:32 UTC+1, Alexander Cherednichenko wrote:Hello Alex, Floby!Thanks for your participation.As for UI - Totally Agree, capitalized. We had extjs as a requirement back then, and really only used it to illustrate node's REST API services. Will defo switch to something fancier later. We are not really happy with Ext in any way, especially after working for a while with it.Grunt, deployment descriptors to NodeJitsu and Joyent - yeah, great idea. If we add a couple of description pages on how to fire up the application, developer-in-study could have their app running in the Internet in like 5 minutes, mostly spent for account creation on hosters'.As for indentation - we'll look into that; really have to comply with all the projects' guidelines (which tell to use 4-space), but I also felt that's a little wider than it should be.Thanks all,Will keep posted on significant updates to the app -- anyway we were planning to plug in fancy testing of everything (just as an illustrative setup) next.Good night,Alex.
On Monday, 28 October 2013 12:58:23 UTC+2, Alex Kocharin wrote:
On Monday, October 28, 2013 2:10:03 PM UTC+4, Floby wrote:Hey, really interesting stuff here.I like how you tried to keep the dependencies minimal. However, here are my thoughts for what, in my opinion, could make this better
- Use something sexier than ExtJS. Like Angular.js or Ember.js. Better yet, all 3.
Better yet, Jade. Simply because nobody seems to understand how to compile templates and use them on the client side.
I don't know about Ember.js, but Angular.js is largely overrated. I'd avoid that for a long while...
- Use Grunt for front-end assets management
- Add necessary files for deployement to Nodejitsu and Joyent in addition to Heroku
- Use 2 spaces indentation for _javascript_
Use tabs, pleeeeease. I understand that spaces is preferred in large projects because stupid developers don't understand smart tabs, but why do you suggest teaching beginners the wrong things?
IMO, this could become a great example app.
On Sunday, 27 October 2013 20:03:27 UTC+1, Alexander Cherednichenko wrote:Hello!Me and team at my company (logicify, software consulting) have started node development around a year ago. We had then created a really simple app showcasing the tech stack, and now, after that year, we would like to share it with the community.This is a really simple but fully-functional application featuring data storage (MongoDB), search (Elasticsearch), cloud deployment (Heroku), serverside JSON API (node) and client-side UI (very basic extjs 4). Totally a work in progress rather than finished product.I think it may be useful:
- For learning - just get a grasp of the code in a bite-sized chunk (s).
- Sample for integration of technologies - it has quite full a stack though very small domain (books).
- Seed, or archetype app - we have been already seeding it twice as a skeleton for real-life application
So, the links:
- Github, code https://github.com/Logicify/nodejs-sample-task
- my blog, motivation (why we needed that and how we use it?) http://lexaux.blogspot.com/2013/10/nodejs-elasticsearch-mognodb-extjs-and.html
- and as a bonus - 2 slidesets from local meetup me and Pavel Knorr had last Thursday in Kherson (Russian language!). Just in case :) http://lexaux.blogspot.com/2013/10/two-talks-at-local-software-development.html
Thanks, and good night!Alex--
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