Hi all,

I don't think we should do analyze two drugs simultaneously. I DO agree that two drugs may correlate to each other through physiology.

However I think we should analyze factors in physiology first. Then we can analyze the correlation between two drug.

Regards,

Masaki


On 2016/09/06 20:34, r.terhe...@radboudumc.nl wrote:

Hi all,

I guess that if both drugs are given to the same person, it makes a lot of sense to perform simultaneous modeling, because of physiology, a lot of parameters will show covariance. The PK of one drug can therefore partially explain the PK of the other one (and vice versa).

Cheers,

Rob

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*Onderwerp:* RE: [NMusers] Simultaneous pk model of 2 drugs

Hello Chris,

What is the point of modeling 2 drugs in one NONMEM code? Do the drugs interact? For example, you can have 2 monoclonal antibodies competing for or binding to the same target and/or concentration of one drug changes elimination rate or some other parameters of the other one. If they do not interact, you can model them separately. In some cases, even if they interact you can model them separately using dose of one drug as a covariate for the other one.

Regards,

Pavel

On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 01:22 PM, Penland, Chris wrote:

    Greetings NMusers,

    Does nonmem have the capacity, unbeknownst to me, for modeling two
    simultaneous drugs?

    I would like some suggestions about how to define the dataset and
    model for a subcutaneous drug and oral drug being administered on
    different schedules. I would use DVID = 1 and 2 for the two plasma
    pk observations.  I figure this soft of thing had to be dealt with
    in the past when trying to model dynamic DDIs (vs, just taking one
    of the drugs as a covariate on the other’s parameters).

    One approach is to specify the compartments for each to be dosed
    into then have those feed the central, but I’m curious to see if
    there is something more subtle in the nonmem syntax. Is there
    something about EVID, that I don’t know that would help (beyond
    EVID=1 for dosing)

    What if you had two oral drugs? Would you treat the two dosing
    compartments as separate and possibly link them together at the
    parameter/covariance level?

    Thanks,

    Chris

    Chris Penland, PhD

    ECD / Quantitative Clinical Pharmacology

    Waltham, MA USA

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