Roman and Gary,

I found the python2.6 on EPEL and also tested it on XS and XCP, using python2.6 
from EPEL will solve this issue and we don't have to change lots lines of code 
to keep the compatibility.

What do we need to use it?
yum --enablerepo=base -y install mx
yum --enablerepo=epel -y install python26 python26-sqlalchemy python26-mysqldb

IMHO it will be the cleanest way to have quantum on XS and XCP ( and we already 
are using EPEL on we will not have any problems with it )

This changed wont affect anything on the system, and python2.6 will be use only 
by quantum, the system will keep using python2.4.

What do you guys think about use it?

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Juliano

On Jun 14, 2012, at 2:14 AM, Gary Kotton wrote:

On 06/13/2012 11:53 AM, Roman Sokolkov wrote:
Gary, thanks for the answer!

Do I understand right about quote below?
2. I have yet to understand how Quantum runs on XCP with nova compute. Have the 
Quantum agent run in the same context as nova compute and send the "networking" 
commands in a similar way that they are done by the nova vif driver for Xen.

To be on the safe side, i will explain our schema. We use XCP as compute nodes 
with separate VM inside XCP for nova-compute service. What's about quantum 
server, it works on external node with nova-network service. Quantum agent(OVS) 
has started on XCP node and polls db. As I understand nova-compute takes info 
about instances vifs from xenapi and this info falled into db, so agent simply 
pulled db and made some stuff like port  plugging, VLAN tagging and flow 
management. As for nova vif driver for XEN as I know it uses xenapi for all 
stuff. Do you mean implement it to agent and start it inside nova-compute VM?

Thanks for the clarification. The issue of 2.4 was discussed a bit after the 
meeting on Monday.

Recently I saw commits that make new agent dependencies from quantum libs. eg, 
https://github.com/openstack/quantum/commit/b3366921472f1cb61bc96598d511594e1d478989
It made more and more difficult to patch it.

At the moment there is no automatic enforcement of 2.4. At the moment we are 
starting to use more modules from openstack-common (for example common 
configuration, rpc etc.) This may also prove challenging for the 2.4 
compatibility.

Thanks, Roman Sokolkov

2012/6/7 Gary Kotton <gkot...@redhat.com<mailto:gkot...@redhat.com>>
On 06/06/2012 11:25 PM, Roman Sokolkov wrote:
Hello!

XCP uses only Python 2.4. But upstream version of quantum ovs agent is 
unsupported by Python 2.4. What do you think about? Could we keep it in 
supported? And what about refactoring code in favor using RPC calls? Will it be 
possible to use RPC with Python 2.4 ?
I am currently implementing a blueprint 
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/scalable-agent-comms) that 
improves quantum agents (by using RPC calls). There are a number of issues that 
we need to address here:
1. The python 2.4 support:
   i. There is a bug open that requires enforcing that the agents run in 2.4
   ii. Is this something that should be enforced by Quantum or is there another 
way of addressing this? Below are a few ideas:
       1. Using patched versions for 2.4 support.
       2. I have yet to understand how Quantum runs on XCP with nova compute. 
Have the Quantum agent run in the same context as nova compute and send the 
"networking" commands in a similar way that they are done by the nova vif 
driver for Xen.
       3. Continue the enforcement (which has yet to be implemented)
   I am in favor of item #2. This would require some development, but I think 
that it is doable and gives the most fleixibility to all.
2. RPC code:
    i. There is a raging debate in OpenStack if this code should be part of 
openstack-common (I am certainly in favor of it as it will help us achive our 
goals and they have done some great work)
   ii. This is currently pending a review (pending the above)
   iii. This makes use of the cfg>CONF global structure (I am in the process of 
addressiing this in Quantum - 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/use-common-cfg (NOTE that we 
also need to validate the 2.4 here :)

Thanks
Aluta Continua
Gary


We are using XCP and have patched version of upstream agent worked with Python 
2.4.

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