You literally lost my interest in reading your solution when I realized that 99.99999999999% of this post is just you railing against people.
People are right, if you can’t get my attention in 50 words, then either your solution isn’t a solution but a marketing ploy, or you need someone who actually knows how to present things to people in this field. Im a former DNSbl maintainer - I get excited over new anti spam solutions and love to throw resources at new solutions. So yeah, this is a non starter. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2019, at 7:03 PM, Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan <g...@dombox.org> > wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > My name is Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan. I'm the guy who proposed SMTP over TLS > on Port 26 last month. I'm also the guy who attacked (???) John Levine. > > Today I have something to show you. > > Long story short.... I solved the email spam problem. Well... Actually I > solved it long time back. I'm just ready to disclose it today. Again... > > Yeah.. Yeah.. Yeah... If only I had a dime for every time people insult me > for saying "I solved the spam problem" > > They usually start with the insult like "You think you are the inventor of > FUSSP?" > > These guys always are the know-it-all assholes. They don't listen. They don't > want to listen. They are like barking dogs. If one started to bark, everyone > else gets the courage to do the same thing. > > I'm tired of fighting these assholes in every mailing list. I'm on your side > morons. So how about you all knock it off? > > Six months back, it was John Levine who humiliated me in the DMARC list. > Apparently, for him 50 words are enough to attack me. > > Töma Gavrichenkov and Suresh Ramasubramanian even started to defend this man > saying 50 words are enough to judge a 50,000 words paper. [We are gonna > figure it out today] > > ---------------------------------- > > @Töma Gavrichenkov > >> In theory, I can easily recall a few cases in my life when going >> through just 50 words was quite enough for a judgment. > > How can you be so sure that you didn't fuck up none of the lives of these > "few cases"? Or in more technical terms, How can you be absolutely sure that > there is no "False Positives"? > > ---------------------------------- > > @Suresh Ramasubramanian > >> Yes, 50 words are more than enough to decide a bad idea is bad. You don't >> have to like that, or like any of us, but facts are facts > > Merely appending the text "facts are facts" not gonna convert a bullshit > statement into a fact. > > You know what's the meaning of the word "fact"? It's a statement that can be > proved TRUE. > > Let's do a little experiment. 100 researchers presents their lifetime work to > us. Each of their research paper contain 50,000 words. We are gonna judge > them. > > You are gonna judge them based on only the first 50 words. And I'm gonna > judge them by tossing a coin. Can you guess who is gonna fuck up less number > of researcher lives? > > I'm claiming that I solved the email spam problem. If that's true, then you > should know, common sense is one of the very basic requirement for that. > > I designed my email system. Every inch of it. I wrote my research paper. > Every word of it. I made my prototype video. Every second of it. So I'm the > captain of my ship. Not you. But you all think you know my system better than > me? That too, with only 50 words? > > My research paper has around 50,000 words. And you think 50 words are enough > to judge my work? Let me make sure I get this right. You are all saying, you > know what's in the rest of the 49,950 words based on only the first 50 words? > That's stupid on so many levels. > > If you are gonna do a half-assed job and relay that misinformation to > thousands of people, why volunteer in the first place? And by the way, by > saying you are all doing half-assed job, I'm actually insulting the people > who are REALLY doing the half-assed job. > > ---------------------------------- > > John Levine vs. me > > One month back, some of you may have noticed a thread created by John Levine > where he goes like "He's Forum Shopping". The whole gist of that message was > "We already have DANE and MTA-STS. We don't a third solution". And then I > used some harsh words to defend myself. But that was the Season 2 of his > "Shitshow". The Season 1 was aired 6 months back. You all missed that show. > This is what happened in Season 1. > > Six months back, I posted on three mailing list saying "I solved the email > spam problem" and asked them to provide feedback on my invention. Those three > mailing lists were SPF, DKIM and DMARC. That's because my solution relied on > them and those three were the only email related mailing lists I knew at that > time. > In DMARC community, John Levine started to insult me after reading only the > first 50 words. > Dave Crocker joined the cast and did a flawless job on abusing me. He asked > me to kill my project. I told him he is being rude. And this is what he > replied for that. He is one of the most radical and ignorant person I have > seen in tech. He didn't even stop for a moment and think "Am I attacking an > Innocent person?". He even went to other mailing lists to attack me. He > abused all his power and kept on attacking me just to have some "dopamine > orgasm". Something tells me he slept peacefully on that day. > And then bunch of other guys joined. So the whole thread gone crazy. This is > because John Levine successfully distributed wrong version of the story to > thousands of people with only 50 words. > Both Dave Crocker and John Levine are the bigshots there. So I knew no matter > how much I cry for help, no one is gonna help me. > John seemed like a "decent-asshole" while compared to Dave Crocker. So I sent > a private mail to John saying "John, I'm not really sure whether I can afford > you since I have not raised any money yet. But let me give it a shot. Could > you tell me how much you would charge to go through my presentation, demo > video and give me a detailed feedback about my system?" [The reason I was > ready to pay him is because he made it very clear in the DMARC thread by > saying "Sorry, but I don't provide consulting for free". I thought if I make > him read my document, he would go back and correct his mistake] > And this is what he replied for that. "Really, even if you had money, it > wouldn't be worth your money or my time". [For the record, he come to this > conclusion without even knowing what's inside in my document] > I said only "ok, thankyou" and then unsubscribed from the DMARC mailing list. > [What more can you argue with a bunch of know-it-all morons who thinks they > are all right?] > Six month later (last month), John started his shitshow again attacking my > IETF proposal. He tried to make me look like an idiot again. And that's when > I started to defend myself by using harsh words. > You all know the rest. > > ---------------------------------- > > One person told me on that thread to take John Levine's words as criticism. > > You see I have no problems with criticism. I usually thank people when they > criticize my work. The best criticism usually follows this format. > > "I went through your paper (#1), your work is full of shit (#2), Here are the > reasons (#3)" > > #1 says, the critic really knows what the author is talking about. > #2 says, the critic is speaking his mind without any bullshit. > #3 says, the critic has valid points for his criticism. > > However, I can't consider someone as critic who straightly go for #2. > Especially when the whole argument was all about killing my work just because > he is one of the inventor of MTA-STS. > > If I start to listen his words, then next time he will create a new thread to > attack me for creating <this thread> saying "He's forum shopping. I already > told him it's not worth his money and my time". What you want me to do in > this case? Take that as criticism and move on? It's my 5 fucking years of > research. I can't just let it go just because someone doesn't like my work. > > ---------------------------------- > > @Valdis Kletnieks > >> You missed the part where the RFC says you *MUST* fall back to A if there's >> no MX. > > "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself; Therefore all progress > depends on the unreasonable man" - George Bernard Shaw > > ---------------------------------- > @John Levine > > I was trying to contribute to IETF the other day. One of the guy from DMARC > list uses your words as a reason to attack me and asking me to turn down the > proposal. You were watching that. > > If I really solved the email spam problem, that puts me in the "best problem > solvers in the world" category. So how about you go back to the DMARC list > and write a decent apology for posting misinformation to everyone? [Of course > only if I solved the spam problem. That was my claim from the beginning > right?] > > ---------------------------------- > > @Everyone > > Here is what you all should know. > > It's my 5 years of research. So it's worth more than 50 words. I started my > work back in 2013 and I used to call my work "XMail" at that time. It's now > called "Dombox" > > My prototype codebase has around 200,000 lines of code. [To be exact: 466,965 > ++ 254,169 --] > > Sequoia Capital is one of the well known venture firm in the world. They have > invested in over 250 companies since 1972, including Apple, Google, Oracle, > PayPal, Stripe, YouTube, Instagram, Yahoo! and WhatsApp. Bill Coughran is a > senior investor in Sequoia Capital. According to his linkedin profile, he > started as a Programmer in the late 60s and held many engineering related > positions over the years. Worked in Bell Laboratories for 20 years. Worked as > SVP of Engineering in Google for 8.5 years. To quote his words "I have some > level of expertise about the current email systems, which is why I was did > some investigating". So this man is one of the toughest person to impress. > But he is one of the nicest investor I have met. When I asked him whether he > can take a look, he didn't insult me with words like "You think you are the > inventor of FUSSP?" He just told me "Sure, I'd be happy to." He went through > my entire paper and then sent me this mail. He later turned me down because > it's hard for a startup to distribute a new solution. Maybe he is right. Or > maybe I'll overcome that too. [Today's discussion is about whether I solved > the spam problem. Not about how I'm gonna distribute the solution] > > Yesterday I published my work on a medium blog post and linked my white > paper. An engineer read my white paper and sent me this mail. > > These guys see value in my white paper because they completed my ~300 pages > white paper. > > To the "50 words are enough" band members, let me tell you something. I'm the > author of my work. It's my job to decide "what to show you" and "when to show > you". I have posted my system summary in a medium blog post. When you reach > 75% of the article, you will see a title called "Hot Gates Strategy". > Everything you see above is pointless without the remaining 25% of the > content. Put it this way, I have designed 75% of that system, only to have > remaining 25% of the system. So yeah, even if you had 75% of the content, you > still can't judge my work. > > Whether you all believe it or not, I'm the goddamn inventor of FUSSP. I can > proudly say that because my system doesn't have the "spam" folder. So how > about you all appreciate the guy who spent 5 years in chasing for a solution > like a madman and succeeded in solving a challenging problem rather than > spending your time in attacking me? [For the record, my single white paper > plenty of problems. Email Spam is one of them] > > Looking forward to hear your feedback. People who complete my white paper, > please post whether my claims are true or I'm just wasting everyone's time. > > [I'm going to bed now. So I may not be online for the next 8 hours. I'll > respond to your queries after that] > > Thanks > > ---------------------------------- > > Materials: > > System Overview - > https://medium.com/@Viruthagiri/dombox-the-zero-spam-mail-system-2b08ff7432cd > > White Paper - https://www.dombox.org/dombox.pdf > > Flowcharts - https://www.dombox.org/flowcharts.pdf > > Prototype - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK2eSfCurx4 [This is the video I > uploaded before posting to DMARC list. So the interface is little outdated] > > -- > Best Regards, > > Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan > Dombox, Inc.
