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----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> To: "Lamar Owen" <lo...@pari.edu> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 8:27:17 AM Subject: Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?) I am incredibly rural in Pennsylvania and pay about $.50 per megabit. > On May 29, 2018, at 09:23, Lamar Owen <lo...@pari.edu> wrote: > >> On 05/28/2018 06:13 PM, Matthew Petach wrote: >> Your 200mbit/sec link that costs you $300 in hardware >> is going to cost you $4960/month to actually get IP traffic >> across, in Nairobi. Yes, that's about $60,000/year. > I live in the US of A, and this is what 200Mb/s roughly would cost me as well > here in Rural Monopoly-land. Rural ILEC also has the CATV business, and, > well, they are _not_ going to run cable up here. I've actually priced 150Mb/s > bandwidth from the ILEC over the years; in 2003 the cost would have been > about $100,000 per month. As of five years ago 10Mb/s symmetrical cost > roughly $1,000 per month, the lion's share of that being per-mile NECA Tariff > 5 transport costs. > > The terrain here prevents fixed wireless. The terrain also prevents satellite > comms to the Clarke belt (mountain to the south with trees on US Forest > Service property in the line of sight). I get 1XRTT in one room of my house > when the humidity is below 70% and it's winter, and once in a blue moon 3G > will light up, but it's not stable enough to actually use; it's the speed of > dialup. If I traipse about a hundred yards up the mountain to the south (onto > US Forest Service property, so, no repeater for me) I can get semi-usable 4G; > nothing like being in the middle of the woods with an active black bear > population trying to get a usable signal. > > I'm paying $50 per month for 7/0.5 DSL (I might add that they provide > excellent DSL that has been extremely reliable) from the only ISP available > in the area. > > I remember a usable web experience not too long ago on 28.8K/33.6K dialup (it > was quite a while before said ILEC got a 56K-capable modem bank). DSL started > out here at 384k/128k. On the positive side, we have a very low > oversubscription ratio, so I actually get the full bandwidth the majority of > the time, even video streaming. I also know all the network engineers there, > too, and that also has its advantages. > > (Yes, I am aware that rural living is a choice, and there are things worth a > great deal more than bandwidth, that it's a tradeoff, etc.) > > So it's not just '3rd-world' countries with expensive bandwidth. >
