Agreed. This is garbage, un-needed legislation.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owen DeLong" <o...@delong.com> To: b...@theworld.com Cc: "Constantine A. Murenin" <muren...@gmail.com>, "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 8:18:54 PM Subject: Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news At this point if I were a registrar or registry doing business in such a way as to be subject to gdpr, I’d seriously consider spinning up a subsidiary only for that purpose and leave it with minimal revenues and nothing to collect in the event of a lawsuit. Either that or simply stop doing business with Europeans until their government comes to its senses. Fortunately For now I get to watch from the sidelines with amusement as this unfolds. Owen > On May 16, 2018, at 17:26, b...@theworld.com wrote: > > >> On May 16, 2018 at 16:10 muren...@gmail.com (Constantine A. Murenin) wrote: >> I think this is the worst of both worlds. The data is basically still >> public, but you cannot access it unless someone marks you as a >> "friend". >> >> This policy is basically what Facebook is. And how well it played out >> once folks realised that their shared data wasn't actually private? > > The problem is that once the data gets out it's out and in many cases > such as this WHOIS data only stales very slowly. > > So one malicious breach or outlaw/misbehaving assignee and you may as > well have done nothing. > > I suppose one could /reductio ad absurdum/ and ask so therefore do > nothing? > > No, but perhaps more focus on misuse would be more productive. The > penalties for violations of GDPR are eye-watering like 4% of gross > revenues. That is, could be billions of dollars (or euros if you > prefer.) > > We know how well all this has worked in 20+ years of spam-fighting > which is to say not really well at all. > > It relies on this rather blue-sky model of the problem which is that > abuse can be reigned in by putting pressure on people who actually > answer their phone rather than abusers who generally don't. > > Another problem is the relatively unilateral approach of GDPR coming > out of the EU yet promising application to any company with an EU > nexus (or direct jurisdiction of course.) > > In that it resembles a tariff war. > > -- > -Barry Shein > > Software Tool & Die | b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com > Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD > The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*
