n Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Doug Barton <do...@dougbarton.us> wrote: > On 12/16/2016 1:48 PM, Hugo Slabbert wrote: >> >> This started as a technical appeal, but: >> >> https://www.nanog.org/list >> >> 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues as >> described in the charter of NANOG. > > Hard to see how the OP has anything to do with either of the above.
Actually, it's not that hard ... *if* we can control ourselves from making them partisan, and focus instead on the operational aspects. (Admittedly, that's pretty hard!) The OP's query was a logical combination of two concepts: - First, from the charter (emphasis mine): "NANOG provides a forum where people from the network research community, the network operator community and the network vendor community can come together *to identify and solve the problems that arise in operating and growing the Internet*." - Second, from John Gilmore: "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." The OP appears to be managing risk associated with a (perhaps low) chance of future censorship. Was the OP asking a straight question about BGP or SFPs or CDNs? Of course not. But should doctors only talk about surgical technique -- and not about, say, the need for a living will? Of course not. IMO, *operational, politics-free* discussion of items like these would also be on topic for NANOG: - Some *operational* workarounds for country-wide blocking of Facebook, Whatsapp, and Twitter [1], or Signal [2] - The *operational* challenges of replicating the Internet Archive to Canada [3] Each operator has to make such risk calculations for themselves. Some may see the "NA" in NANOG as insurance that such censorship could never happen here. Others -- especially those who came from other countries -- may feel differently. Put another way: Everyone has a line at which "I don't care what's in the pipes, I just work here" changes into something more actionable. Being *operationally* ready for that day seems like a good idea to me. Royce 1. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/12/20/turkey-blocks-access-facebook-twitter-whatsapp-following-ambassadors/ 2. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/12/20/world/middleeast/ap-ml-egypt-app-blocked.html 3. https://blog.archive.org/2016/11/29/help-us-keep-the-archive-free-accessible-and-private/
