And its not the last time the big Tier(s) will refuse to do anything
beside dropping the fault to the CPE vendors.

    People love circles.

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On 10/24/16 14:12, Alexander Lyamin wrote:
> Its not a first time we have and large scale DDoS incident.
> Its not a first time we have  (a kind of) knee-jerk reaction.
>
> I think its a right time to direct community attention to this  document
>
> https://www.routingmanifesto.org/manrs/
>
> It's  work in progress. But its a good start.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patr...@ianai.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I cannot give additional info other than what’s been on “public media”.
>>
>> However, I would very much like to say that this is a horrific trend on
>> the Internet. The idea that someone can mention a DDoS then get DDoS’ed Can
>> Not Stand. See Krebs’ on the Democratization of Censorship. See lots of
>> other things.
>>
>> To Dyn and everyone else being attacked:
>> The community is behind you. There are problems, but if we stick together,
>> we can beat these miscreants.
>>
>> To the miscreants:
>> You will not succeed. Search "churchill on the beaches”. It’s a bit
>> melodramatic, but it’s how I feel at this moment.
>>
>> To the rest of the community:
>> If you can help, please do. I know a lot of you are thinking “what can I
>> do?" There is a lot you can do. BCP38 & BCP84 instantly come to mind. Sure,
>> that doesn’t help Mirai, but it still helps. There are many other things
>> you can do as well.
>>
>> But a lot of it is just willingness to help. When someone asks you to help
>> trace an attack, do not let the request sit for a while. Damage is being
>> done. Help your neighbor. When someone’s house is burning, your current
>> project, your lunch break, whatever else you are doing is almost certainly
>> less important. If we stick together and help each other, we can - we WILL
>> - win this war. If we are apathetic, we have already lost.
>>
>>
>> OK, enough motivational speaking for today. But take this to heart. Our
>> biggest problem is people thinking they cannot or do not want to help.
>>
>> --
>> TTFN,
>> patrick
>>
>>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundem...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Does anyone have any additional details? Seems to be over now, but I'm
>> very
>>> curious about the specifics of such a highly impactful attack (and it's
>>> timing following NANOG 68)...
>>>
>>> https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/ddos-on-dyn-impacts-
>> twitter-spotify-reddit/
>>> --
>>> @ChrisGrundemann
>>> http://chrisgrundemann.com
>>
>

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