This is quite common, almost all of the DDoS-for-hire services are hosted behind CloudFlare, and a great majority of them take PayPal. Another one had even managed to secure an EV SSL cert.
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Dovid Bender <do...@telecurve.com> wrote: > I used to have a boss that was convinced that MCafee was writing viruses > to stay in business.... > > Regards, > > Dovid > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Rosenthal <p...@isprime.com> > Sender: "NANOG" <nanog-boun...@nanog.org>Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 22:17:53 > To: jim deleskie<deles...@gmail.com> > Cc: NANOG list<nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: Re: cloudflare hosting a ddos service? > > Plus, it’s good for business! > > -Phil > > > On Jul 26, 2016, at 10:14 PM, jim deleskie <deles...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > sigh... > > > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patr...@ianai.net> > > wrote: > > > >> CloudFlare will claim they are not hosting the problem. They are just > >> hosting the web page that lets you pay for or points at or otherwise > >> directs you to the problem. > >> > >> The actual source of packets is some other IP address. Therefore, they > can > >> keep hosting the web page. It is not sending the actual > >> [spam|DDoS|hack|etc.], right? So stop asking them to do something about > it! > >> > >> Whether you think that is the proper way to provide service on the > >> Internet is left as an exercise to the reader. > >> > >> -- > >> TTFN, > >> patrick > >> > >>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 9:49 PM, Mike <mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> So vbooter.org's dns and web is hosted by cloudflare? > >>> > >>> "Using vBooter you can take down home internet connections, websites > and > >> game servers such us Minecraft, XBOX Live, PSN and many more." > >>> > >>> dig -t ns vbooter.org > >>> > >>> ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3ubuntu0.8-Ubuntu <<>> -t ns vbooter.org > >>> ;; global options: +cmd > >>> ;; Got answer: > >>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 62177 > >>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 > >>> > >>> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: > >>> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 > >>> ;; QUESTION SECTION: > >>> ;vbooter.org. IN NS > >>> > >>> ;; ANSWER SECTION: > >>> vbooter.org. 21599 IN NS rick.ns.cloudflare.com. > >>> vbooter.org. 21599 IN NS amy.ns.cloudflare.com. > >>> > >>> dig -t a www.vbooter.org > >>> > >>> ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3ubuntu0.8-Ubuntu <<>> -t a www.vbooter.org > >>> ;; global options: +cmd > >>> ;; Got answer: > >>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34920 > >>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 > >>> > >>> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: > >>> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 > >>> ;; QUESTION SECTION: > >>> ;www.vbooter.org. IN A > >>> > >>> ;; ANSWER SECTION: > >>> www.vbooter.org. 299 IN CNAME vbooter.org. > >>> vbooter.org. 299 IN A 104.28.13.7 > >>> vbooter.org. 299 IN A 104.28.12.7 > >>> > >>> > >>> Can anyone from cloudflare answer me why this fits with your business > >> model? > >>> > >>> Mike- > >> > >> > > -- Regards, Paras President ProTraf Solutions, LLC Enterprise DDoS Mitigation
