I hear you.

Taken to extremes, I can see how the argument sounds like that.

However…  I have some thoughts on what you’ve said.

Most of us would never get peerings to all the Tier 1s.

But…

Hurricane Electric already has IPv6 peering to every network that matters, save 
for Cogent’s.  Every other accepted Tier 1 peers with HE on IPv6.  Even SPRINT. 
 If we got back historically, they (Sprint) were among the most coveted and 
hardest to get IP peerings.  Even they recognized HE’s dominance of the IPv6 
space early on.

I’m not bashing Cogent.  I’m a customer of theirs and they’ve generally served 
me well.  The trouble I have in accepting Cogent’s behavior in this matter is 
that it just seems irrational.  If a typical, public forum peering dispute 
arose between HE & Cogent regarding IPv6, frankly and pretty objectively, you’d 
expect it to be Hurricane Electric questioning the value of peering Cogent IPv6 
rather than Cogent questioning HE.

I don’t question these parties’ rights not to peer, but I do question the logic 
behind it.  I think Cogent is hurting themselves on this more than HE is 
getting hurt by it.


> On Jan 21, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Brandon Butterworth <bran...@rd.bbc.co.uk> 
> wrote:
> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Matthew D. Hardeman <mharde...@ipifony.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Since Cogent is clearly the bad actor here (the burden being
>>> Cogent's to prove otherwise because HE is publicly on record as saying
>>> that theyd love to peer with Cogent)
> 
> I'd like to peer with all tier 1's, they are thus all bad as
> they won't.
> 
> HE decided they want to be transit free for v6 and set out on
> a campaign of providing free tunnels/transit/peering to establish
> this. Cogent, for all their faults, are free to not accept the
> offer.
> 
> Can the Cogent bashing stop now, save it for when they do something
> properly bad.
> 
> brandon

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