On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Todd Underwood <toddun...@gmail.com> wrote: > it's also not entirely obvious what the point of having local IXes > that serve these kinds of collections of people. >
one might consider that localized services or peer-to-peer traffic might not want to burden the long-haul links, for the cost of a 1g or 10g port on a local switch/router. this conversation is sort of like the ipv6 part earlier though... 'if people want to do this, cool! if they don't or can't for $REASONS also cool.' > how much inter-ASN traffic is there generally for a city of 100k > people, even if they all have 1Gb/s connections? are they all > torrenting, accessing local business web pages that are hosted > locally, streaming video from local streaming caches? if a local IX > is a good place for a llnw, akamai, ggc, netflix cache node, i can see > it, but that's about it. it's not clear that a flix cache would rate showing up at an IX in (for example) juneau... though it'd sure be interesting to know the share of traffic your 4 exemplars contribute to the overall longhaul traffic mix. > t > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, joel jaeggli <joe...@bogus.com> wrote: >> On 10/12/15 1:57 AM, Henrik Thostrup Jensen wrote: >>> On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Jeremy Austin wrote: >>> >>>> Juneau, I'm not so surprised; how many other cities that small and >>>> isolated >>>> have IXes? I'm curious. It's an interesting prospect, at least for some >>>> value of $location. >>> >>> Several small cities in Sweden have IXes. Not sure than any of them are >>> quite as small as Juneau, but some (Borås, Luleå, Sundsvall) are sub >>> 100k people, and other cities (Umeå, Uppsala) are just over 100k >>> inhabitants. Umeå and Luleå are releativly isolated - at least by >>> European standards. >>> >>> Most of these are probably just a switch or two, and are probably there >>> to provide better quality of service, and not because it makes for a >>> good business. >> >> Sweden's IX infrastructure is not entirely unique but are certainly >> borne out of a particular set of circumstances and public private >> partnerships that don't generally exist elsewhere. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netnod >> >>> >>> Best regards, Henrik >>> >>> Henrik Thostrup Jensen <htj at nordu.net> >>> Software Developer, NORDUnet >>> >> >>