> On Oct 1, 2015, at 15:28 , Mark Andrews <ma...@isc.org> wrote: > > > In message <4f2e19ba-d92a-4bec-86e2-33b405c30...@delong.com>, Owen DeLong > writes: >> >>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 13:55 , Grzegorz Janoszka <grzeg...@janoszka.pl> >> wrote: >>> >>> On 2015-10-01 20:29, Owen DeLong wrote: >>>> However, I think eventually the residential ISPs are going to start >> charging extra >>>> for IPv4 service. >>> >>> ISP's will not charge too much. With too expensive IPv4 many customers >> will migrate from v4/dual stack to v6-only and ISP's will be left with >> unused IPv4 addresses and less income. >> >> Nope… They’ll be left with unused IPv4 addresses which is not a >> significant source of income and they’ll be able to significantly reduce >> the costs incurred >> in supporting things like CGNAT. >> >>> Will ISP's still find other profitable usage for v4 addresses? If not, >> they will be probably be quite slowly rising IPv4 pricing, not wanting to >> overprice it. >> >> Probably they will sell it to business customers instead of the >> residential customers. However, we’re talking about relatively large >> numbers of customers >> for relatively small numbers of IPv4 addresses that aren’t producing >> revenue directly at this time anyway. >> >>> Even with $1/IPv4/month - what will be the ROI of a brand new home >> router? >> >> About 2.5 years at that price since a brand new home router is about $29. >> >> Owen > > The hard part is the internet connected TV's and other stuff which > fetches content over the internet which are IPv4 only despite being > released when IPv6 existed. These are theoretically upgradable to > support IPv6 so long as the manufactures release a IPv6 capable > image. The real question is will governments force them to do this.
Governments are unlikely to force this issue. However, what I think will happen (and I wish I had the hardware skills to build the device) is that someone will come up with a compact, cheap (think price of Raspberry PI) device with two 100Mbps ethernet ports. One will be an RJ45 plug and the other will be a socket. The socket will support POE for powering the device. The device will have a small linux kernel and provide DNS64/DHCP4/NAT64 services to the RJ45 plug and the jack will connect to the IPv6-only port in the house. The software is already completely available as open source. There’s a tiny bit of integration to do. If you do this for IPv6-capable services on the outside and don’t need to connect to IPv4 laggards, this is a relatively simple solution. If you need to preserve IPv4 connectivity to the outside world, it gets a little more complicated, but not a lot. > Upgrading the router is a no brainer. Upgrading the TV, games > consoles, e-readers, etc. starts to add up. I’m betting that if someone offered the device I suggested above for a price point around $40 (add a small amount of money for a cheap POE injector if needed), it would do the trick. Owen
