On 2/Sep/15 16:08, Jared Mauch wrote:

> It’s really because some people who drink the MPLS/VPN/VRF/VLAN kook-aid 
> think it’s some magic that undoes fate sharing and proper engineering and 
> planning.  That a few bytes for a label of VLAN tag make your data more 
> secure.
>
> It’s possible to build a network that works without all these vendor pushed 
> tricks.  I see where Roland is trying to go and he’s in the “magic byte” 
> realm of the extra label makes it “OOB” where as the rest of us just see 1’s 
> and 0’s on the wire and know a bit is a bit regardless of tag-switching (the 
> original name for MPLS) or IEEE 802.1q label.  I’m sure there are people 
> still doing ISL but i’d rather not.

There was a time when the early MPLS/VPN adopters built physically
separate routers for MPLS traffic. When it became clear that this was
not a good way to scale, they moved to building dedicated line cards in
shared routers for MPLS/VPN's.

As we see today, those that build - heaven forbid - "converged" networks
tend to derive better ROI's from their network infrastructure. I'd be
hard-pressed to hear from even the largest of operators physically
separating MPLS and IP traffic at the hardware and/or link level.

As you, Jared, say, and as I said in a previous post, both MPLS and IP
traffic follows the same data plane. The routing table separation
construct does not survive chassis-wide failures.

Mark.

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