My apologies for the implication.
I meant that on the Internet as a whole it is unusual for such speeds to
actually be realized in practice due to various issues.
8-10Mb/s seems to be what one can expect without going to distributed
protocols.
On 03/02/2015 09:06 AM, Scott Helms wrote:
Daniel,
The sold speeds are all actually less than the actual speeds. The PON
customers are slightly over provisioned and the DOCSIS customers are
over provisioned a bit more.
On Mar 2, 2015 10:01 AM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtay...@vocalabs.com
<mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com>> wrote:
What do those 25 and 50Mb/s download rates amount to in practice?
Statistically speaking, those might *be* symmetric.
On 03/02/2015 08:41 AM, Scott Helms wrote:
Daniel,
For the third or fourth time in this discussion we are
tracking and customer satisfaction for users who do have
symmetrical bandwidth >24 mbps and have for a number of years.
We see customer usage patterns and satisfaction being
statically the same on 25/25 and 25/8 accounts. The same is
true when we look at 50/50 versus 50/12 accounts.
On Mar 2, 2015 9:22 AM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtay...@vocalabs.com
<mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com> <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com
<mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com>>> wrote:
I'm clearly not a normal user, or I wouldn't be here.
Normal users have never experienced high-speed symmetrical
service.
People don't miss what they have never had.
On 03/02/2015 08:09 AM, Scott Helms wrote:
That's not the norm for consumers, but the important
thing to
understand is that for most of the technologies we use for
broadband there simply is less upstream capacity than
downstream. That upstream scarcity means that for DSL,
DOCSIS, PON, WiFi, and LTE delivering symmetrical upstream
bandwidth will cost the service provider more which
means at
some point it will cost consumers more.
WiFi is a special case, while there is no theoretical
reason
it must be asymmetrical but it works that way in practice
because dedicated APs invariably have both higher transmit
power and much better antenna gain. The average AP in
the US
will put out a watt or more while clients are putting
out ~250
milliwatts and with 0 antenna gain.
On Mar 2, 2015 8:58 AM, "Daniel Taylor"
<dtay...@vocalabs.com <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com>
<mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com
<mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com>> <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com
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<mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com
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Personally?
If the price were the same, I'd go with 50/50.
That way my uploads would take even less time.
It isn't about the averaged total, it's about how long
each event
takes, and backing up 4GB of files off-site
shouldn't have
to take
an hour.
On 02/27/2015 03:11 PM, Scott Helms wrote:
Daniel,
"50MB/s might be tough to fill, but even at
home I can get
good use out of the odd 25MB/s upstream burst
for a
few minutes."
Which would you choose, 50/50 or 75/25? My
point is
not that
upstream speed isn't valuable, but merely that
demand
for it
isn't symmetrical and unless the market
changes won't
be in
the near term. Downstream demand is growing,
in most
markets
I can see, much faster than upstream demand.
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