Also on this same idea, in his book "The Puzzle Palace," James Bamford claims 
that we knew of the pending attack on Pearl Harbor but did nothing, because 
that would compromise we broke the Japanese Purple Cipher.

matthew black
california state university, long beach


-----Original Message-----
From: William Herrin [mailto:b...@herrin.us] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 2:06 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: [[Infowarrior] - NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for Years]

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Niels Bakker <niels=na...@bakker.net> wrote:
> Please go read up on some recent and less recent history before making 
> judgments on what would be unusually gutsy for that group of people.
>
> I'm not saying this has been happening but you will have to come up 
> with a better defense than "it seems unlikely to me personally".

Let me know when someone finds the second shooter on the grassy knoll.
As for me, I do have some first hand knowledge as to exactly how sensitive 
several portions of the federal government are to the security of the servers 
which hold their data. They may not hold YOUR data in high regard... but the 
word "sensitive" does not do justice to the attention lavished on THEIR 
servers' security.

In WW2 we protected the secret of having cracked enigma by deliberately 
ignoring a lot of the knowledge we gained. So such things have happened. But we 
didn't use enigma ourselves -- none of our secrets were at risk. And our 
adversaries today have no secrets more valuable than our own.

-Bill



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