----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Sinatra" <mich...@rancid.berkeley.edu>
> On 11/15/13 13:25, Jay Ashworth wrote: > > You seem to be taking this awfully personally, though, Mike; did you > > *set* the policies and procedures I'm scoffing at? > > I am NOT TAKING IT PERSONALLY DAMMIT!!! Well, jeez, Loueeze... :-) > Okay, now being serious (note clever way of avoiding using emoticons > while pointing out that I _wasn't_ being serious above), I wasn't > involved in the decision process and didn't have much say in why things > were done. If it looked like I was taking it personally, that was only > because of the bald-faced, yet hidden accusation of my being wordy, > which I categorically resemble. Which category? > Okay, now I will really be serious. For the stuff that they did, and > still do, the CEVs _did_ (and do) work. The user interface is a bit > more challenging that a regular building. My understanding is that this > got us out of a lot of political battles, but I was not privy to those > conversations. I think, however, that it may have something to do with > what Roy is going through at UM, especially as he noted that the > decision appeared to have been made at higher levels. In this case, > management did something that's not totally wrong, IMO. Yeah; I get what you're saying; layers 9 and 10 often overrule layer 8 (that's money, lawyers, and people, respectively :-). I just can't help but think that the CBA is *really* lopsided against CEVs in nearly every circumstance; the "wink wink nudge nudge" approach to keeping departments out of your damn rack room seems the largest weighted item on the list. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274