I certainly don't want to put words in his mouth, but I thin Warren's problem is that he can't upgrade his pipes. Physics limits the bandwidth available, as I think he is a satellite provider. My argument is that if I'm a satellite user I should be well aware, particularly because this is not a new phenomenon, that there are times when my bandwidth will suck. It is what it is.
On 9/19/13 3:06 PM, "Ryan Harden" <harde...@uchicago.edu> wrote: >To be honest, I don't see this as a problem at all. Use it as an excuse >to upgrade your pipes, talk Akamai or CDN of choice into putting a cache >on your network, or implement your own caching solution. As operators of >the Internet we should be looking for ways to enable things like this, >not be up in arms at Apple for releasing an update to their phone OS or >making it available in a way that's inconvenient to our oversubscription >policies. > >As a side note, how are some of you not aware of this? This has happened >with every single Apple OS update since the iPhone was released in 2007. >This isn't a new phenomenon. I realize some of you are too cool for >Apple, but paying attention to traffic trends and keeping abreast of how >new software releases might affect your utilization is part of properly >running a network. > >/Ryan > >Ryan Harden >Senior Network Engineer >University of Chicago - AS160 >P: 773-834-5441 > > > > >On Sep 19, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Warren Bailey ><wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote: > >> I own a galaxy note 2..tmo ran an update that pushed to unique IMEI's >>sequentially. That way, you do not.. >> >> 1. Murder your last mike packet network, which is your bandwidth >>bottleneck. >> >> 2. Murder your ggsn/whateverpacketnodeyouwant closer to the core. >> >> 3. Anger your paying customers who would like to use packet data >>successfully on an ios download day. >> >> These people (Apple) represent themselves as smart guys, but their >>actions reflect otherwise. I bet this would be a larger deal to Nanog >>people if your Internet stopped working as the result of 100% Linux >>adoption. That is very close to what this is.. Tens of millions of >>people trying to update their 13 ios devices at the same time. Who owns >>a single ios device? A household could do 5-10gb worth of updates in a >>single day.. >> >> I personally do not own an ios device, and I see close to 3 gigs worth >>of update traffic at my house. These things are everywhere, and this >>problem will not stop. >> >> >> Sent from my Mobile Device. >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swm...@swm.pp.se> >> Date: 09/19/2013 11:16 AM (GMT-08:00) >> To: Warren Bailey <wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> >> Cc: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgs...@mykolab.com>,NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> >> Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic >> >> >> On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Warren Bailey wrote: >> >>> Why does apple feel it is okay to send every mobile device an update >>>on a single day? >> >> They don't, these are users who actively goes into the software upgrade >> menu and pressing "upgrade". >> >> I believe the nagging won't start for quite some time. >> >> -- >> Mikael Abrahamsson email: swm...@swm.pp.se >
