I agree it's not a lot of bandwidth, but I was grasping at straws at that point 
finding out about the cross country VoIP arrangement after the fact. For 
whatever reason, the 711 calls were full of voice clipping and call drops, 729, 
(with to your point, the lower MOS) worked better as despite not sounding as 
good, the calls stopped dropping and people's voices were no longer dropping 
out.

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Seastrom [mailto:r...@seastrom.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 11:56 PM
To: Shaw, Matthew
Cc: Brandon Galbraith; Andy Ringsmuth; NANOG list
Subject: Re: Comcast contact


"Shaw, Matthew" <ms...@fairpoint.com> writes:

> Make sure the remote phone is using a low bandwidth codec too. In a 
> previous life changing a remote (home) user's phone from G.711 to
> G.729 made all the difference in the world to their call quality.

i think you've got that backwards.  80 kbit/sec on the wire is not a lot these 
days, and in a world where we're conditioned to accept gsm or worse, 
un-transcoded g.711u sounds startlingly good.  if you're so short on bandwidth 
that moving to a 24 kbit/sec on the wire codec makes a difference, you're on 
the ragged edge of being hosed.

-r

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