For the folks who aren't aware, there is working being done on a proposal for a complete do-over of WHOIS: http://www.circleid.com/posts/20130703_rebooting_whois/ I don't believe this work address the regional registry information, which is what initiated the discussion, but this conversation has crossed over into the domain names, too.
Frank -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Pavely [mailto:para...@nac.net] Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:35 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads > Because your mail servers are broken. Because you put spamfilters on > your abuse@ mailbox, IF you even have an abuse@, which a lot of you > don't. Because we tried calling, and your tier1 are clueless. > > Fix your mailservers. Train your staff. Staff your abuse desk. Then > we'll talk. My mail servers are just fine. My abuse department is standing by to serve your requests. They are listed on all domains, ip allocations, and abuse.org, etc, etc.. If you suggest folks attempt to reach an abuse contact, fail, and them spam. Ok. No problem. But starting out with receiving an email that is CC'd to 3 departments, 2 direct people, and the same for all other org's involved is offensive, abusive, etc. And if you suggest for a second someone attempted to call, and gave up, and then spammed; yeah that never happened. A phone call? Really? Maybe one a decade, versus many spammed-spam complaints a day. > Someone else wrote and I seem to have deleted it.. but basically 'I > don't think these occurrences happen that often to warrant a change.' Well. If it's not happening that often, then lets fix it now before it does :) > I actually think it's important to have contact information publicly > available. > Why? Who outside 'the business' needs that level of detailed contact information to IP mgmt folks? Does an end-user need that access? No. Does a web hoster need that access? No. They can go through their ISP or contact my OPS contact. Do you need that access? Do you have an AS, and IP blocks? If so then sure, why not. Now there is a big bug in locking down access to those registered members. Registered with whom? Arin? Ok so how do my brit friends whois my IP contact info? That complicates things, beyond suggesting an Arin policy. So I don't ever see this as changing, as I think I said, but it should change. Just like we shouldn't have echo/chargen anymore. They were cool 'back in the day'. Ryan Pavely Net Access Corporation http://www.nac.net/ On 7/26/2013 9:02 PM, Matt Hite wrote:
