On 06/13/2013 06:11 PM, Scott Helms wrote:

Not at all Michael, but that is a targeted piece of data and that means  a command and 
control system.  I challenge your imagination to come up with a common scenario where a 
non targeted "I'm/they're here" that's useful to either the company or the 
Chinese government keeping in mind that you have no fore knowledge of where these devices 
might be deployed.   Also, no oneseems to want to touch the fact that doing this kind of 
snooping would be several orders of magnitude easier on laptops and desktops which have 
been sold by Lenovo for much longer than networking gear by Huawei.



Non targeted? Why be so narrow? For a targeted use, something that detects,
oh say, "we [the Syrians] gassed the rebels" in some stream and sends it out a
covert channel  would be very interesting. Remember that vast sums of money are
spent on these intelligence gathering systems. Whether they're targeting 
routers is
really hard to say -- the attacker has the advantage of knowing what they're 
looking for
and we don't. So in a router? It may just be opportunistic that they're easier 
or safer
to penetrate? We really don't know. Things are rarely as they appear on the 
surface.


Mike, "I just heard the Syria example from the Newshour as I typed... this isn't 
hard"

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