I don't need any wire tapping or decrypting. Let's say I want to see all NANOG emails, I just need to call Larry Page's CSO office and someone will send me a copy. of course I can't give you any evidence, how could I? Does it make sense?
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:44 AM, ku po <cciehe...@gmail.com> wrote: > What is the point to argue whether they have the capacity to process all > the data? > They DON'T need to build expensive systems. > They just need to make sure when they ask your company for information, > these information are available for them and fast enough. > So the statement that saying "we don't give them direct access" means > nothing!!! > The right question is IS THERE A DIRECT CHANNEL for them to ask you for > information without providing all the evidence( how could they show you all > the evidence when it is security related??), which you can't deny their > access. > > > > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:20 AM, James Harrison > <ja...@talkunafraid.co.uk>wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 08/06/2013 16:31, William Herrin wrote: >> > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:25 AM, jamie rishaw <j...@arpa.com> wrote: >> >> Just wait until we find out dark and lit private fiber is getting >> >> vampired. >> > >> > Why wait? >> > >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/politics/20submarine.html?_r=0 >> > >> > -Bill >> > >> >> In a similar vein, a new PRISM slide was released by the Guardian this >> morning: >> >> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-prism-server-collection-facebook-google >> >> Doesn't specifically say private fiber - just "fiber cables and >> infrastructure". May just refer to fiber to/from/within complying >> company infrastructure, ofc, not necessarily anything else. >> >> They also apparently have a web 2.0 compliant dashboard with a catchy >> name and pop-ups with big numbers in: Boundless Informant. >> >> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-boundless-informant-global-datamining >> >> Speaking from the other side of the pond it's interesting to see where >> this is going. GCHQ (the UK NSA equivalent) are being asked stern >> questions by the government about their involvement and if they've >> been asking the NSA for UK citizens' data (since they're not allowed >> to collect it themselves). >> >> Cheers, >> James Harrison >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAlGzyl4ACgkQ22kkGnnJQAwVfQCePSYz9p5P95bnWYbp4YA2SeQD >> HeQAn0AOnReV6DQC0Y3k5P046BbFnBUJ >> =auDI >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >
