::: They don't have 20 brains, they have a country full It was just an example :-) to point out the scale of developers vs operators.
Calin ---- On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:39:24 +0100 Warren Bailey<wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote ---- > They don't have 20 brains, they have a country full. I was in Beijing last > year, it was eye opening to the see the state of affairs there. > > > > > From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: "calin.chiorean" <calin.chior...@secdisk.net> > Date: 02/20/2013 12:36 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: Warren Bailey <wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> > Cc: sur...@mauigateway.com,nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: NYT covers China cyberthreat > > > > IMO, if we stick to the document and they are organized in military style, > then a person who collect information, should focus only on that particular > phase. That person is an operator, he or she should not be keep busy > remembering long CLI commands. The scope is to deliver ASAP. > > No matter how much I like CLI and to put my fingers into text mode, I have > to admit that point and click in windows is an easier and faster method to > achieve the task I did mention. As Warren mention, if you have 20 "brains" > it's easy to put those people port a tool from *nix to other platform and > have the other 500 operators run it in windows. It's just a matter of good > sense and "business" effectiveness :) > > Maybe I misinterpret information, but this is how I see things. > > Cheers, > Calin > > > ---- On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:24:10 +0100 Warren > Bailey<wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote ---- > > > They are when you have a college full of programmers. > > > > > > From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. > > > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Scott Weeks <sur...@mauigateway.com> > > Date: 02/20/2013 12:23 AM (GMT-08:00) > > To: nanog@nanog.org > > Subject: Re: NYT covers China cyberthreat > > > > > > > > --- calin.chior...@secdisk.net wrote: > > From: "calin.chiorean" <calin.chior...@secdisk.net> > > > > <snipped> > > :: when all tools are available for windows os, you just have to compile > them. > > <sniped out the rest> > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > They're not all available for m$. > > > > scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:02:35 +0100 Scott Weeks wrote ---- > > >Be sure to read the source: > > > > > >intelreport.mandiant.com/Mandiant_APT1_Report.pdf > > > > > >I'm only part way through, but I find it hard to believe that > > >only micro$loth computers are used as the attack OS. Maybe I > > >haven't gotten far enough through report to find the part > > >where they use the *nix boxes? > > > > > > > > > > > > >
