Guess who has power over the networks and Internet.  We do and power corrupts 
us too.  There are some bad guy ISPs and engineers out there too.  Just because 
you are running a Tor server to allow for "privacy protection" does not mean 
you were never doing anything illegal through it.  I know this is not true in 
all cases but a lot of times the guy who screams the most about privacy has 
something to hide.  Do you like getting phone calls with blocked callerID?  Do 
you like getting anonymous SPAM?  Do you mind having anonymously sourced pics 
of your kids going out over the internet?  One guys privacy is sometimes an 
invasion of mine.  

If this guy is so distraught over this case maybe he should have ensured that 
he had the resources to defend himself before he put up the multiple exit 
nodes.  There are test cases all the time, but if you want to be the test case 
you should be prepared.  

How many of us have killed an open mail relay (did you have a warrant before 
you interrupted that good Samaritan providing that free mail server to the poor 
downtrodden email-less masses...you are not even a cop and did not have a judge 
review your actions..how dare you...)?

Steven Naslund

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Wieling [mailto:ewiel...@nyigc.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 4:12 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you 
can.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter Kristolaitis [mailto:alte...@alter3d.ca] 
>Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 4:53 PM
>To: nanog@nanog.org
>Subject: Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if 
>you can.
>
> (Note:  I don't mean to imply that all cops are power hungry 
>mouth-breathers intent on destroying the lives of citizens.   Most cops 
>are fundamentally good people and do a great job.  But like every other 
>profession, there ARE bad cops out there, and it's within the realm of 
>possibility that you'll deal with one of them one day.)

Power corrupts and cops have power.    What scares me is that there is no way 
*I* can tell the difference between a cop who accepts free coffee from the 
local café and a cop who will lie to get what they want.


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