I believe that this section of NRPM says no. 4.3.5. Non-connected Networks
End-users not currently connected to an ISP and/or not planning to be connected to the Internet are encouraged to use private IP address numbers reserved for non-connected networks (see RFC 1918). When private, non-connected networks require interconnectivity and the private IP address numbers are ineffective, globally unique addresses may be requested and used to provide this interconnectivity. Owen On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:56 AM, "Naslund, Steve" <snasl...@medline.com> wrote: > I suppose that ARIN would say that they do not guarantee routability > because they do not have operational control of Internet routers. > However, Wouldn't you say that there is a very real expectation that > when you request address space through ARIN or RIPE that it would be > routable? I would think that what ARIN and RIPE are really saying is > that they issue unique addresses and you need to get your service > provider to route them. FWIW, the discussion of the military having > addresses pulled back is pretty much a non-starter unless they want to > give them back. When the management of IP address space was moved from > the US DoD, there were memorandums of understanding that the military > controlled their assigned address space and nothing would change that. > I know this for a fact because I was around this discussion in the US > Air Force. > > Steven Naslund > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Curran [mailto:jcur...@arin.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:40 AM > To: Jeroen Massar > Cc: NANOG list > Subject: Re: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! > ...) > > On Sep 20, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Jeroen Massar <jer...@unfix.org> > wrote: >> On 2012-09-20 16:01 , John Curran wrote: >>> >>> It's very clear in the ARIN region as well. From the ARIN Number >>> Resource Policy Manual (NRPM), >>> <https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four11> - >>> >>> "4.1. General Principles 4.1.1. Routability Provider independent >>> (portable) addresses issued directly from ARIN or other Regional >>> Registries are not guaranteed to be globally routable." >> >> While close, that is not the same. >> >> The RIPE variant solely guarantees uniqueness of the addresses. >> >> The ARIN variant states "we don't guarantee that you can route it >> everywhere", which is on top of the uniqueness portion. > > Agreed - I called it out because ARIN, like RIPE, does not assert that > the address blocks issued are "publicly routable address space" > (i.e. which was Tim Franklin's original statement, but he did not have > on hand the comparable ARIN reference for that point.) > > FYI, > /John > > > >
