Just an FYI - even though you approved the wireless charge, it's actually free. They pull the per-diem/week charge off your bill. That applies to all NANOG attendees.
Mike On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:36 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > I don't think it is. I think that you can negotiate and I will point out that > the hotel > here has wanted our business enough that they have now scrambled to make > life significantly better. You can also bet I'll be demanding that they > credit my > $54 that I put on the in-room access be credited to my bill even though ARIN > would > pay it. > > I routinely do this when the conference network (or the in-room network) > sucks and it's provided by the hotel. I have yet to have one refuse my refund > request. > > Owen > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: > >> Holding the last 10% of the meeting room payment seems like a good start for >> any venue. >> >> But as others have indicated, the market may be too small for free-market >> principles to be fully effective. >> >> Frank >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JC Dill [mailto:jcdill.li...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:36 PM >> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group >> Subject: Re: meeting network >> >> On 10/10/11 7:00 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>> It would be wise for NANOG to approach future venues and specifically >> discuss these things with the hotel IT departments in question ahead of time >> so that they have some remote chance of being prepared. >> >> I tried this approach many years ago, for a Blogher conference. The >> hotel's IT people were uncooperative, and incompetent, and they lied >> both about their network design and their equipment capabilities. I >> have since learned that this is par for the course. IMHO the only way >> to solve this problem is with big $$$ penalties in the contract, big >> enough that the incompetent IT people realize their jobs are on the line >> and relinquish control so experts can get access and set-up things properly. >> >> Also note - the conference or hotel's IT people will always claim they >> have "done this before with no problems" even when they haven't. >> >> jc >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Michael K. Smith - CISSP, GSEC, GISP Chief Technical Officer - Adhost Internet LLC mksm...@adhost.com w: +1 (206) 404-9500 f: +1 (206) 404-9050 PGP: B49A DDF5 8611 27F3 08B9 84BB E61E 38C0 (Key ID: 0x9A96777D)