On the hotel network, I have also seen some issues beyond getting an address. I 
can usually trace just fine, but applications, specifically web is extremely 
slow, or non responsive. The hotel appears to be shoving all traffic through a 
squid proxy, which does not appear to be big enough to handle the traffic. I 
have gotten various error messages from squid.

I would think that the contract with the hotel for the conference would include 
the specific requirements for the network. Is that not the case?

-Randy

On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:01, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote:

> 
> On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Dobbins, Roland <rdobb...@arbor.net> wrote:
>>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
>>> 
>>>> if it's wifi that's causing the trouble, the usual causes are:
>> 
>> is the complaint the hotel ROOM wireless? or the meeting-room? I
>> noticed the nanog-a-secure bounce me 2x, so I moved back to
>> ipsec-tunnel on nanog-a.. in the past nanog (plain) has been more
>> 'stable' for me in general (and all you mac users can happily fight
>> over -a!)
>> 
>> As to the hotel room wifi... apparently when you have 490 rooms in the
>> hotel (full) and only provision your internal NAT space as a /23 ...
>> things work 'fine' most days. When a networking conference comes to
>> visit with 3+ devices requiring IP in each room... the whole hotel
>> network stops :( Last night the display systems in the lobby and the
>> hotel registration machines were all broken :( The hotel's network
>> people (in NYC) are supposedly 'on a fix', who knows... (is expanding
>> the nat subnet THAT hard?)
>> 
>> -chris
> 
> It would be wise for NANOG to approach future venues and specifically discuss 
> these things with the hotel IT departments in question ahead of time so that 
> they have some remote chance of being prepared.
> 
> Owen
> 
> 
> 

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