I completely agree... the real issue here is the system is flawed and RIPE/ARIN/APNIC etc have zero actual authority over actual routing. Yet another reason they aren't worth the money we flush down the toilet for them to do absolutely nothing. --Tammy
----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Conrad" <d...@virtualized.org> > To: "Arturo Servin" <arturo.ser...@gmail.com> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:25:51 PM > Subject: Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap > > On Aug 20, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Arturo Servin wrote: > > If you are claiming right over these prefixes I suggest you to > > contact RIPE NCC. > > And that will do what exactly? > > Back when I worked at an RIR, a prefix was "misplaced". When I > contacted the (country monopoly PTT) ISP and told them the prefix > had been removed from APNIC's database and should not be routed. > Their response was "We have a contract with the customer for > connectivity. We do not have a contract with you." and I was > encouraged to get the customer to voluntarily withdraw the prefix. > > If BGPSEC+RPKI were deployed, there might be something active the > RIRs could do. However, this has its own implications regarding > centralized control of the routing system (as discussed, ironically > enough, in the RIPE region). And this is going to get much more > 'interesting' as the IPv4 free pool exhausts and the market moves > from black to grey or white. Fun times ahead. > > Regards, > -drc > > >