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On Apr 20, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Jim Gettys <j...@freedesktop.org> wrote: > On 04/20/2011 04:44 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>>> The best way to make 6to4 diminish has always been and still remains: >>>> >>>> Deploy Native IPv6 Now. >>>> >>>> That's a plan and a necessity at this point, but, execution is still >>>> somewhat lagging. >>>> >>> Of course, Comcast *is* deploying native IPv6; see, for example, >>> http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2011-January/031624.html >>> It just takes a while -- and a non-trivial number of zorkmids -- to >>> do things like replacing all of the non-v6 CPE. >>> >>> >>> --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb >> Comcast was not the target of my comment... The networks saying Comcast >> shouldn't help the rest of the net by providing open 6to4 relays were the >> ones I was referring to. >> >> I again applaud Comcast's leadership on IPv6 to the end user, even if they >> haven't gotten >> it to me yet. ;-) >> > > They already have if you can run either 6rd or 6to4 and are a Comcast > customer, even if you didn't happen to know they had. (Though they do plan > to turn off the 6rd hack they were using this summer; their native trial and > 6to4 work well enough to not need yet another transition mechanism). > I'm already running IPv6 over 6in4 tunnels to my cool routers. 6rd is not an improvement. I'm looking forward to the day when Comcast can deliver straight native IPv6 to me. > Their kind offer is to extend availability of their 6to4 relays to others who > aren't even Comcast customers... > > (Says this reasonably happy participant in Comcast's IPv6 trial; my > unhappiness is the state of CPE firmware, not with how well Comcast's end of > things work; I plan to ditch commercial firmware on my home router for > OpenWRT momentarily...) > - Jim > > lol... The commercial JunOS on my home gateway seems to be working OK. Owen