On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: > On Tue, 15 Mar 2011, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: >> On Mar 15, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Andrew Elliott wrote: >> >>> Looking for information on the current standard practices for charging >>> customers >>> for larger than default v4 assignments. >>> >>> Especially with the rapidly depleting v4 space, how are SP's handling these >>> requests? Is it safe to assume customers requesting larger blocks are >>> willing >>> to pay a premium? >>> >>> How much are SP's charging and what are the thresholds? What are default >>> allocations based on? (ie: size of the circuit, type of product, etc...) >>> >>> Are SP's requiring more strict justification for said assignments? >> >> "Larger than default"? There are rules about allocating IP space, it has to >> do with justification, not default sizes. >> >> Charging for them means you are likely a spammer or provider catering to >> spammers, and lying on your justification forms. Hopefully these types of >> providers will go away as space gets tighter and justifications are >> scrutinized more. > > You've not been an ISP for too long. Charging for IP space (even justified, > not being used for spamming) is pretty common. I don't get involved in sales > very often, so I don't know what we charge for them, but I know we do. I > don't believe our rates for IPs have changed [yet] in anticipation of IPv4 > runout. Our standard IPv4 assignment for dedi/colo single servers has been > /28. For cloud, it's /32. Anything more adds to the MRC. I can see the > former shrinking soon to /29 or /30 unless the customer demands more.
Sorry, hasty note. Whenever someone says "how much can I charge for giving a customer more space than they need", I think "spammer". Maybe that's wrong, maybe not, but that's the bell that rang in my head. And I do hope that spammers will have their space reclaimed, because it is _not_ a justified use of space to put a /16 on a single mail server to avoid blacklists. As for your first sentence, it is true, I Am Not An Isp. :) However, I do get space from providers, and it is not at all normal for the provider to ask us for money. But then, maybe we are special. -- TTFN, patrick
