On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:24 AM, Zed Usser <zzu...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Basic Internet services will work (web browsing, email, Facebook, >> Youtube,...), but:
Actually, many facebook and youtube features will also be degraded. >> - Less torrenting >> - Less Netflix watching >> - Less FTP downloads >> - Less video streaming in general (webcams, etc.) >> You might take a hit on online gaming, but what else is there not to love? :) > You're joking, right? I don't think that most customers are going to take kindly to having their internet experience on their computer(s) reduced to what they expect from their cell phone. >> Your sales department / helpdesk might have a bit of hassle of trying to >> undestand / explain this new Intertubes to the suck^H^H^H^Hcustomers, but >> most of them won't care either way. > > Until some competitor who's not using NAT444 comes along and > advertises that those functions work properly, maybe. > Only for very liberal definitions of the phrase "won't care either way" > > Tolerate != won't care > Most of them != People who won't eventually tell their friends or > tweet about their frustrations > Nah... Just make sure tweeting is one of the things you break along with the rest of the itner-tubes. (joking, of course). > > For those who are connecting to watch Netflix, it is only marginally > less annoying for the user than > removing the "always on" feature of DSL, requiring customers to > manually click an icon to dial in, > and get a busy tone played / "All dialin 'lines are busy'" / "Please > use IPv6 while you wait, > wait 10 minutes and try dialing in again", if there are no global > IPv4 IPs available at the moment > they are trying to connect. > As long as you give them IPv6, their Netflix and Youtube will work. > Some might even strongly prefer that (time limited access and pay > per connected hour) > for periods of access to proper unique IPs over NAT444 brokenness; > You guys are making me very very glad that I: 1. Do not depend on my provider for IPv4 addresses. 2. Have a fully dual-stack environment at home. 3. Do not depend on my residential provider to deliver anything more than the ability to shove GRE across the internet encapsulated in whatever protocol (v4/v6) works at the time. > possibly with a customer choice between NAT444 and "time metered > dynamic unique IP" and reasonably > automatic simple means of switching between IP types on demand. > I encourage my competitors to try this. Owen