--- On Fri, 2/18/11, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote: > > Now correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't some kind of > NAT/PAT going to be required to join the IPv4 and IPv6 > domains in all foreseeable futures? If so, aren't we going > to have to deal with these issues in any case? > > > No, we need to move forward with IPv6 on all levels in > order to reduce the need for these solutions. Reduce, yes. Remove, no. Without a global cutoff date for the IPv6 transition, it's not like IPv4 is going to disappear overnight. Furthermore, without any IPv4/IPv6 translation, the first IPv6 only networks are going to be awfully lonely.
> Joining the IPv4/IPv6 domains doesn't work out all that > well and a dependency on doing so is > broken in a number of ways, many of which are documented in > the draft. We agree that IPv4/IPv6 domain interoperability is broken, but it's not like we can ignore the issue. So, unless I'm very much mistaken, the NAT/PAT issues are going to have to be dealt with. Or do you propose an alternative solution? Please note that this is not an anti-IPv6 stance. To me it looks like the problems plaguing NAT444 need to be solved just to make IPv4 and IPv6 co-exist. Perhaps not the very same problems, but similar NAT/PAT problems in any case. Please do tell me I'm wrong. Bonus points for explaining why I am wrong or how the IPv4/IPv6 thing is to be solved without NAT/PAT. - Zed