On Aug 13, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Dan White wrote: > On 13/08/10 21:04 -0000, John Levine wrote: >>> I've tried to deal with that a few times - mainly by writing up the >>> first upstream AS. Usually they don't care (and every time I have >>> noticed someone blatantly stealing space, it's been spammers). >> >> Has there ever been a case where ARIN has tried to take a block back >> from a party to whom they had allocated it and doesn't want to give it >> back? My impression is that stolen space is all swamp or legacy or >> abandoned, but I really don't know. >> >> In case it's not obvious, I'm not advocating that people thumb their >> noses at ARIN, but I don't see any obvious way to avoid my scenario. > > Make a public example of the situation. Assign such a block to an ARIN > member with extensive legal resources who's willing to send some nasty > letters out, and back it up with court action to establish legal > precedence. > > Or ARIN could do so itself on the grounds of breach of contract. > > Of course, said block should clearly fall within ARIN's domain, backed up > with a signed contract from the original party.
Yes, we have returns, revocations, and reclamations occurring routinely. They're covered in the same Toronto Registration services report that I referenced earlier on page 5. <https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_XXV/PDF/Wednesday/Nobile_RSD.pdf> /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN
