Brielle Bruns wrote: > Problem is, there's no financial penalties for providers who ignore > abuse coming from their network. > > DNSbl lists work only because after a while, providers can't ignore > their customer complaints and exodus when they dig deep into the > bottom line. > > We've got several large scale IP blocks in place in the AHBL due to > this exact problem - providers know there's abuse going on, they won't > terminate the customers or deal with it, because they are more then > happy to take money. > > Legit customers get caught in the cross-fire, and they suffer - but at > the same time, those legit customers are the only ones that will be > able to force a change on said provider. > > They contact us, and act all innocent, and tell people we're being > unreasonable, neglecting to tell people at the same time that the > 'unreasonable' DNSbl maintainer only wants for them to do a simple > task that thousands of other providers and administrators have done > before. > I know it's akin to Apples and Oranges but maybe a "network forfeiture" (http://www.lectlaw.com/def/f054.htm) clause be drafted. Surely there should be no outcry for stating: "If your network is dirty, its gone including all your equipment" I wonder how fast some network operators would have their networks. Again, re-visiting re-hashed threads: http://www.mail-archive.com/na...@merit.edu/msg50472.html (http://www.mail-archive.com/na...@merit.edu/msg50472.html) Surely a vast majority have to be tired of the garbage coming from your own networks and others. I can tell you I'm tired of my phone ringing because some tollfraudster keeps thinking he's making uber calls when he's stuck in one of my honeypots.
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