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On Jun 8, 2010, at 3:27 PM, "J. Oquendo" <s...@infiltrated.net> wrote: > Jorge Amodio wrote: >>> None of this needs to be done for free. There needs to be a "security >>> fee" charged _all_ customers, which would fund the abuse desk. >>> >> >> >>> With more than 100,000,000 compromised computers out there, it's really >>> time for us to step up to the plate, and make this happen. >>> >> >> Or you should send the bill to the company that created the software >> that facilitated to get so many computers compromised, some folks in >> Redmond have a large chunk of money on the bank. >> >> My .02 >> >> >> > Seems like it's come full circle again > (http://irbs.net/internet/nanog/0412/0109.html) and I can always recall > Rob Thomas' take on this (http://irbs.net/internet/nanog/0412/0222.html) > "Filtering out bogons removes yet one more potential source of badness. > Does it remove all badness? Of course not. We win by degrees. Removing > any tool from the bad persons' toolkit is useful." Not forgetting Mark > Andrews "Any operator not implemting BCP 38 is potentially aiding and > abetting some criminal. BCP 38 is over 10 years old. There is no excuse > for not having equipment in place to handle the processing needs of BCP 38." > > ISP's could actually offset the charges to customers with helpdesks to > re-coup some equipment costs while maintaining a clean network. As for > the "blame the software" comment, irrelevant. If bad hosts were > minimized, there would likely be less compromises irrespective of the > vendor of the software. Statistically I would think the number of > compromises would go down but at the same time I believe the criminals > would get smarter. That's just the nature of the beast. > It's not irrelevant. If it were, apache would be more frequently exploited than IIS. It isn't. Owen > -- > > =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ > J. Oquendo > SGFA, SGFE, C|EH, CNDA, CHFI, OSCP, CPT > > "It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to > ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things > differently." - Warren Buffett > > 227C 5D35 7DCB 0893 95AA 4771 1DCE 1FD1 5CCD 6B5E > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x5CCD6B5E >
