Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 12:42:51AM -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: >> This isn't just my DSL provider, its a business class connection >> provider who also happens to provide my (hrm.. our) primary Internet >> connection. >> >> Are you going to teach me something with a clue bat, or are you going >> to beat me to death with the specifics that each prong of a fork >> carries? > > Sure, I'll give it a brief shot... Some Internet connections are simply > not designed to support customer BGP. When someone says "business class > service" over cable or DSL, typically what they're talking about is > "we'll route your calls to a slightly higher class call center", and > "we'll provide you with 5 e-mail addresses/IPs and 50MB of hosting for > your website instead of just the usual 1 email and 1 dynamic IP". > > The DSL gear may very well not be able to speak BGP to a customer at > all. Each provider gets to decide what service they do and don't want to > sell, and your provider has clearly decided they don't want to sell you > BGP. From the providers' point of view, I'm sure this makes perfect > sense. I'd love to get Comcast to speak BGP to my cable modem, but I > have absolutely no delusions that they will ever do so. There is more > than likely nothing you're going to be able to do about it, and the more > you complain about it like this the more likely they are to move you > into the "this guy is a nut and we don't want your business at all" > category.
Richard, I appreciate your concern. I would have expected however that you might have understood that I wasn't asking about some resi-type connection. Yes, we are small. I would love to be in a position to say that our 100Mb connection qualifies... Regardless... > If you don't like the service you're getting, vote with your money and > buy from someone else. This is quite simply not a NANOG issue, but in > the interests of being helpful the best advice I can give you is this: > > "Your request is unreasonable, and you should adjust your expectations > that you'll ever get it from the service you are purchasing". Tell me, what can you offer me? Here are my immediate purchasing qualifications: - 100Mbps - space in Torix - optic, from Toronto, Ontario to Cobourg, Ontario (55 miles) - gear at both ends We pay ~$2500 for the fibre and the bandwidth. Get me a deal. I am not the money man. I don't even want to deal with money. I can't vote with money, as it's not mine. Believe me, if I could vote with money, I'd be 100% HE. I'm venting. I'm allowed to vent here. I think I'm qualified to do so. Even though I can't speak with $, there are those who know my determination to keep a clean network, and they may be willing to help me in the future. Steve
