Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 11:54:07PM -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: >> I'm not a political person. Take it for what it is worth. >> >> I personally know people who do both: >> >> - practice but not preach >> - preach but don't practice >> >> ... however you take my point, I don't care. >> >> I just wanted it to be known that the 'guys' who do practice it should >> 'God willing' come out and preach it. >> >>> And this is not the big boy list. This is for all Operators in North >>> America, and many who are not, regardless of size. (Well, I guess we'll >>> exclude the guy who buys are cable/DSL link and "provides" to his mother >>> & father with a LinkSys.) >> eh, -stevieb has much respect for all those who read this list, and when >> he posts, feels that the big guys are looking down upon him... hopefully >> with approval. > > Ok so, without getting into debates over being political, practicing vs > preaching, BCP38, or big guys vs little guys, can you please explain in > clear english what in the name of holy hell you're talking about? > > What is the issue here, that your DSL provider won't speak BGP with you > no matter how many times you've asked, so you're complaining to NANOG
Theoretically, I'm not complaining, I'm venting. This isn't just my DSL provider, its a business class connection provider who also happens to provide my (hrm.. our) primary Internet connection. Are you going to teach me something with a clue bat, or are you going to beat me to death with the specifics that each prong of a fork carries? > Please correct me if I'm reading this wrong, but the emails > so far haven't been very clear and this isn't making a lot of sense. My apologies if I haven't been clear. What would you like me to say? If I can't 'complain' here, where do I go? I think that I've acted tactfully and responsibly. What didn't make sense? Enlighten me. Although I did come here with concerns and questions, I do have a clue bat of my own to swing in defence... Steve