Peter Beckman wrote: > On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Mark Andrews wrote: > >> What a load of rubbish. How is ARIN or any RIR/LIR supposed to >> know the intent of use? > > Why don't we just blacklist everything and only whitelist those we know > are good? > > Because the cost of determining who is good and who is not has a great > cost. If you buy an IP block, regardless of your intent, that IP block > should not have the ill-will of the previous owner passed on with it.
You don't buy ip blocks or at least not from ARIN. Among other things that ARIN does not guarantee is routability. > If > the previous owner sucked, the new owner should have the chance to use > that IP block without restriction until they prove that they suck, at > which point it will be blocked again. That system seems to work well > enough: blacklist blocks when they start do be evil, according to your own > (you being the neteng in charge) definition of evil. > > ARIN needs to be impartial. If they are going to sell the block, they > should do their best to make a coordinated effort to make sure the block > is as unencumbered as possible. I get that there is a sense that ARIN > needs to do more due dilligence to determine if the receiving party is > worthy of that block, but I'm not aware of the process, and from the > grumblings it doesn't seem like fun. > >> Note we all could start using IPv6 and avoid this problem altogether. > > Because as we know IPv6 space is inexhaustable. Just like IPv4 was when > it began its life. ;-) > > That won't avoid the problem, it will simply put the problem off until it > rears its head again. I'm sure that IPv6 space will be more easily gotten > until problems arise, and in a few years (maybe decades, we can put this > problem on our children's shoulders), we'll be back where we are now -- > getting recycled IP space that is blocked or encumbered due to bad > previous owners. > > Beckman > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Peter Beckman Internet Guy > beck...@angryox.com http://www.angryox.com/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >
