a not (IMHO) unreasonable proposed  corrollary ...

throughout the 21st century, humanity has also demonstrated that the
purportedly maximally-efficient distribution of resources afforded by
late-stage capitalism has rarely been accompanied by truly altruistic
motives; and every capitalist across the spectrum should interrogate the
parameters associated with deals that seem (perhaps superficially) too good
to be true.

steve ulrich (sulr...@botwerks.org)


On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 20:51 Lu Heng <h...@anytimechinese.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Throughout the 20th century, humanity has consistently demonstrated that
> the central distribution and redistribution of resources are ineffective.
>
> To clarify, the tickets that come with sponsorship are still tickets that
> I have purchased as part of a package deal.
>
> Therefore, I have paid for those tickets and am happy to donate them to
> those in need for free.
>
> It’s hard for me to understand why some people have an issue with that.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 10:38, Christopher Hawker <ch...@thesysadmin.au>
> wrote:
>
>> If, hypothetically speaking, I were a sponsor and I had spare tickets to
>> an event that I didn't pay for or need and my intentions were truly
>> altruistic, I'd return them to the event organiser so that they may
>> distribute them (in line with my wishes of course). I wouldn't post to a
>> public mailing list advertising that I was a sponsor and looking for people
>> to give away tickets to.
>>
>> To be transparent, everyone is entitled to do with their tickets as they
>> wish, and spend their money in whatever way they wish as is their right.
>> This is simply what I would do.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Christopher Hawker
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+chris=thesysadmin...@nanog.org> on behalf
>> of Lu Heng <h...@anytimechinese.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2025 10:00 AM
>> *To:* Ilissa Miller <ili...@imillerpr.com>
>> *Cc:* NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: Free pass NANOG
>>
>> Hi Llissa:
>>
>> Thank you for your kind words.
>>
>> As the Diamond sponsor and meeting host for the upcoming meetings, I
>> intend to continue this initiative throughout the year for the next few
>> meetings as well!
>>
>> Please spread the word and let those in need know!
>>
>> There are only two to three passes left, so please act quickly if you
>> know someone might require assistance. :)
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards.
>> Lu
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 22:28 Ilissa Miller <ili...@imillerpr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for your very generous offer for this very important community.
>> I hope there are people on this list that take you up on it - very kind!
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 12:07 AM Lu Heng <h...@anytimechinese.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I am a capitalist and philanthropist who doesn’t believe in central
>> distribution. So, no thanks.
>>
>> I will give to the person in need myself.
>>
>> And those passes aren’t “given”, I purchased them.
>>
>> For those need help I still have few left, PM me.
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards.
>> Lu
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 07:42 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojed...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well said @Tom and Chris. Sounds like the right way to go about this.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> ----
>> Sent from my mobile
>> kindly excuse typos
>>
>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 4:33 pm Christopher Hawker, <ch...@thesysadmin.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Lu,
>>
>> As @Tom <beec...@beecher.cc> said, you'd be better off handing them back
>> to your NANOG rep who can then allocate them to people who need it. They
>> would be in the best position to allocate them where they may be needed,
>> i.e. sponsoring someone to attend who otherwise may not have the capacity
>> to purchase a ticket.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Christopher Hawker
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+chris=thesysadmin...@nanog.org> on behalf
>> of Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 14, 2025 1:57 AM
>> *To:* Lu Heng <h...@anytimechinese.com>
>> *Cc:* NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: Free pass NANOG
>>
>> If NANOG has given you meeting passes that you aren't using, the best
>> thing to do would be to contact the NANOG staff member that gave them to
>> you and let them know you no longer need them.
>>
>> NANOG already has programs in place to assist students and others with
>> meeting attendance.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 2:07 AM Lu Heng <h...@anytimechinese.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a few passes for the upcoming NANOG meeting left, in which I would
>> like to share with people who might need assistance to attend meetings(i.e
>> students, academic or non profit), PM me if you are one of those people.
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Kind regards.
>> Lu
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
> --
> --
> Kind regards.
> Lu
>
>

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